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Author Topic: Is there a place for those who don't voice?  (Read 2180 times)
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« 03. December 2011, 05:42:12 »
When I played SWG on Starsider, we had a huge role-play community. It was the unoffical role-player server in the game. Just about ever guild had there own vent channel and during combat it was a tool used to have an advantage at winning as possible. It was a clear form of medigaming. I took part in many pvp battles using vent and I am fully aware of the advantge it gives to battles. Yet then it began to dawn on us that it was taking away from the immersion and we began to stop using it for that purpose. We were here for the storyline, win or loose, to role-play. Go to Youtube, pull up some game combat recorded while using vent and see for yourself that it does nothing what so ever to enhance role-play. 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngoRQCj7L5w
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« 03. December 2011, 06:02:22 »
It doesn't do anything roleplay wise although in Star Trek Online one of the admirals of our fleet had a meeting and conducted it in character which was a real nice touch , so much that everyone in the fleet wanted future fleet meetings done in character. Another advantage to using vent is that it makes it easier for people to express themselves better, sometimes just writing stuff down in the chat box doesn't really get the right feel as when people can hear the tone of your voice (when talking OOC stuff) . When I played The Matrix Online (another game that got humped really hard by SOE like Star Wars Galaxies and believe me Xaz we heard alot of complaints from folks on your side of the game fence concerning SOE) the faction I was with used Ventrillo exclusively, we were successful with roleplay with anyone outside of our vent chat but anyone with vent? forget it, the two things most produced by vent chat was conversations about the mechanics of the game and explaining to noobs how to get the best equipment and stuff and the other was the level of OOC conversations. i wasn't complaining , alot of those conversations was funny and it really made the whole atmosphere of game playing even more enjoyable

For me the bottom line is if you want to be very successful in the combat aspect of the game and want to avoid any misinterpretations in your group then vent is the way to go. If you are looking to be totally immersed in the roleplay you might want to get off vent as it can be real distracting.
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« 03. December 2011, 08:59:49 »
Yep you definitely misunderstand me totally and I love the fact you can ramble on someone's personal life when you don't even know anything about them or it.  Shocked

I hope others didn't come to the same conclusion as you from my post...That is totally messed up lady. Wow you need help.

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« 03. December 2011, 16:10:58 »
I know the thread keeps going back to voice while RP'ing, but I had a lot more than that in mind when I wrote it.

I'm talking about voice in general and what I feel is the growing preference for it in SL as a social tool for friendships and RP partnerships as well as things like sim management and discussion groups.  More than one person has told me they would not enter an RP partnership, collar or companionship, if there wasn’t a voice component for chit chats.  Others SAY they don’t care if someone doesn’t voice, but their actions prove otherwise to me, so I almost rather know in advance that it's going to be some sort of glass ceiling on the RP.

I really do believe that as voice becomes more common, more of a preference for many, I'll be missing out on a lot more RP opportunities and OOC friendships. If I was someone who preferred voice, and had the options of joking and laughing away with my group of friends all the time, I do think my friendships with text only people would be limited to an extent. Not purposefully, but gradually it would happen.

Like when I started my family in RL and my friends still hadn't had children, they'd go to bar every Saturday and tell me about it on Monday. Eventually, our friendships sort of faded. I gravitated to mom and tots groups and they went their way too. I see voice doing this same thing to my SL.

It's strange but I used to voice a lot more in SL and on Skype when I wasn't in Gor. For me, Gor is about RPing.. which is based on written words and texts. I would feel that voicing while RPing would totally detract the immersive environment that I seek when I am in Gor. I would personally prefer that people do not voice while RPing. It is even difficult for me to respond to IMs while I am in a scene so I can't imagine what voicing and RPing would be like. That is not to say that I won't ever voice. I have and I will but only with people that I have formed a friendship with and over time. However, I can not voice very often due to RL reasons.

The friends I have voiced with over time, we became very close and even developed a RL friendship after years of knowing each other. I do think it matters as voicing can bring two people closer. However, I do have a friend who I never voiced with and she is close to me as the friends I voiced with a lot.. so I do think that if the friendship is important enough, it wouldn't really matter. So while it might hinder from forming new friendships quickly. There will always be others who are open about having friendships, relationships.. ect without ever voicing. So don't give up hope. While it is nice to hear the voice of an avi you have spent time with for awhile or even just RPed with..... it doesn't have to be the end of and be all.

And for those that make it a requirement. Well, it's a shame because you could be missing out on a great RP partner, friend or relationship. However, on the flip side of the coin, if a person knows what is required to keep a friendship or relationship going and being upfront about the necessity of voicing; it could save a lot of heartache or a potential problem at the end due to that need not being met. IDK. It's a rather difficult subject as I feel that voicing definitely bridges RL with SL, and it is very difficult to keep it separate once that line has been crossed. This has been my personal experience.

ETA: There have been times when I have been in group voice chat and I couldn't voice for one reason or another and I had to type out my responses while others were voicing. I did feel slightly left out at the time (it's natural) but I tried not to let it bother me. I tried to keep up with voice chat via typing. I had to do this couple of times in RL as well for work while we had skype meetings over voice. sooooo... while you can feel excluded... try not to let it bother you much. If you can participate even via typing while others are voicing. Do it.
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« 03. December 2011, 20:36:11 »
Thank you Mathilde.
I really enjoyed your response.
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« 05. December 2011, 10:42:16 »
i usually have technical problems and even msn voice chat normally does not work with me (...who knows why??), so i have never used voice during roleplay. once on a certain sim they had asked me ot do so because, they pretended, the want to know the real sex of the persons around. meanwhile i am quite sure that they used voice to keep "new people" out of the group as this sim has been quite well-known for its large quantity of alts.

rp in voice chat makes no sense to me, either. and i fully agree to what mathilde said.

i do not want to mix rl and sl, and part of my rl is my voice, too.
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« 05. December 2011, 17:47:04 »
Can't beat a  good hot steamy session on skype. Wink
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