I'll port over my previous response.
. Interesting question.
Greetings all.
If a slave is working in a shop, the Library and the infirmary, is it assumed that there are guards around? Or is a Free allowed to just walk into any place of business and do what they like with the slave, walk out and no one stops them?
In general outside of the home and for a slaver (it's his business) I doubt that guards would be used to protect slaves if not in the presence of their owners. Iron belts would be the tool used to protect a slave from casual use.
Would not daily life in a Gorean town be constantly in a uproar? Sure, it is only a slave, but some slaves are worth more than others. Not to say my character is, but there are kettle slaves, pleasure slaves, slaves who are trained to work in the Library, the Infirmary, urt slaves, coin slaves…
I am not saying that stuff does not happen, but if a Free was going to make a move on a slave, just because there are not avies of guards around, shouldn’t it be assumed that there are some around public buildings, institutions and a market? On the street it is different, grabbing one and dragging her into a dark alley can happen. But this also is a bit problematic as even if the Role-play world is non-consensual, the role-player should always have an out. So as in non metered conflict, you do not actually ‘slap a player’ you raise your hand attempting the slap and the receiver can decide if it connects or not.
I don't think a gorean city would be in an uproar based on slaves being used. It would be common and no more noted than going to the bathroom in terms of satisfying a natural urge. It might only take about that long as well. :lol:
As a slave player I see resistance being limited for two reasons. The first would be a matter of practicality. What weapons would a slave have at their disposal and the penalty for raising a hand to a free would be pretty steep, possibly death. Why would a slave risk that over what is a basic function of their existence? The second reason will vary with the personality of the slave. Most gorean men are said to have been able to bring a slave to a needful state easily. Playing the frigid slave could be problematic even if a slave might communicate that their owner does not wish them to be touched. Of course the free can ignore what they are told but at that point you likely head into unslavelike behavior in the absence of abuse with continued resistance.
So you grab one inside a building that is not the tavern, she is in a building, in a shop, what is the rp? Can she run to be closer to the guards who she knows and knows her from her working there every day. The guards are not there to guard the slave per se, but the property of the institution or shops in the market. The slave is part of the property.
In this case I see a problem if those guards have not been part of your RP up until that point. If there are NPCs that you wish to be acknowledged as part of the scene they should not just be introduced when the RP goes in a direction you do not like. I typically make a habit of including a host of characters in the scene that would normally be there. If there is a shop guard did you greet him? Interact with him in anyway such as offering them food, drink, flirting? Or was he invented for expediency sake. The other player should rightly call fowl if it is the latter. I see this commonly with free women players.
Even if a girl is wearing a belt, there are other things that can be done to her.
What I think is if there is a consensus in the sim rules stating the security of the shops and buildings, it could raise interactions. A Free can want a slave. Sure. Then realize the setting one is in. Let the rp begin. And really go by her restrictions. No matter if the player thinks they are silly or not. These are the boundaries. Really. If the Free does not like those boundaries then please do not cross them and move on.
Ask the restrictions in rp. In some instances this may seem like it a silly thing to ask. But it is a layer of information to rp about. The Free has their eye on the slave, the slave knows it. Interesting rp can happen including approaching the Owner.
I do not think any Free should be forced to uphold OOC restrictions if they make little sense for the scene or the role. A slave player could be used at any point in time and I don't think they should have to send an IM
"is this ok" to proceed. I also don't believe they have to question a slave about their restrictions ICly. Certainly its a direction to take the RP but I wouldn't expect it as a slave player. The free player should however be prepared to deal with the consequences of what amounts to theft using anothers property. Something to consider is that usually the slave is believed to be at fault. (Great RP scene BTW)
When Ellen had poured for the fellow, she had been careful not to let her hair fall forward and brush his shoulder. She knew such things might be arousing to men, and that Gorean men, with their powerful sexual appetites, were easily aroused. If he were to cast her down between the fires and put her to his peremptory pleasure, she had little doubt but what it would be she who would be blamed. Is it not always the slave who is blamed, who must writhe beneath the whip? Had there been a sufficient number of iron belts in the camp she supposed that she might have been locked in one. (Prize of Gor)Of course there are exceptional instances…but I am asking just for normal everyday Gorean life. What can a player expect in regards to town security?
And can a girl just simply run away from the Free, slip free of their grasp or must she submit because if she escapes, she gets punished for disobeying?
Is there an etiquette between Free regarding the use of their property?
I am wondering what others think about this.
Thank you.
I believe there is no standard etiquette. This will vary with each player. What I would find misplaced in Gor is an unusual sensitivity to whether to use a slave or not that was out in a public place (including a shop, library, or physicians offices). The primary concern of the slave likely would be on the reaction of their owner rather than their response to the free player with an exaggerated need to protect their owners property or adhere to what amounts to OOC restrictions in the absence of a belt.
The simple solution is to use NPCs but don't have them magically appear when you don't wish to go along with gorean RP. There is of course FTB although I still struggle with using that to avoid sexual RP which would be part of a gorean slaves existence and that would include even a pot and kettle girl or work slave. I'd prefer the "had her swiftly" approach but I realize sexual RP with anyone other than an owner seems to be taboo in SL Gor.
