Once again, I see OLD SIMs closing - Such a shame

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May 2012

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[Astarte Hubbenfluff]

Dear Goreans Of SL.
It is with a tear in my eye that I see yet another SIM closing down. This one is a Cluster of SIMs that have been around for Years and while I understand that Times change, I also understand the virtue of Experience. and the Owner of the SIM in Question had LOADS of it. You Cannot buy Experience.

What I suppose I am saying is that we all need to support the people who spend serious Money and spend serious time giving us Goreans in SL, a place to play, a place to have GOR. Even if the SIM is not what YOU call GOR, you Should still RESPECT these people......and maybe support them a little..even just a visit to their SIM for 5 minutes a week is a little gift to them...(so long as you do NOT MOAN) . Most people look at Traffic numbers as the Highest statement of a SIMS worth.
Actually, This should NOT be the case - the quality of the RP and the Storylines is what is important. After all...This is a ROLE PLAY environment.

We at the GRC (Gorean Recruitment Centre) try our hardest to promote all kinds of Gorean SIM/Group in SL and we have been doing well for nearly 2 years now.
We believe in trying to Give back to the SIM owners.
We have well over 300 posters of Gorean SIMs/Groups and Urge you to come and look....by doing so, you may find a SIM that you are glad to have found...then also, the SIM owner is getting something back for their work.
The GRC Members Group has 100's of Members also..Join for Free and spread the word.

By doing this and Coming and visiting other SIMs, you will all help support the Gorean SIMs that exist in SL.
The GRC is SIM independant and shall always remain so, not trying to change GOR in SL to use new meters etc etc.

Support the SIM owners of GOR.
The GRC-Bringing GOR to YOU

[Mel Fitzcarraldo]

I will reserve my opinion on whether certain sims should exist or not, but what is this cluster of sims that is closing down?

[Yaynenali Resident]

Did I read this right? You think we should spend our time online visiting sims, even those that do not play the kind of Gor that the visitor may enjoy? And you think we should do this because we owe it to them simply because they opened a sim?

While I understand your sentiment, having people travel to a sim that they do not enjoy for 5 minutes out of this unwritten duty won't save a sim. I highly doubt it will do anything for your contradictory statement of good roleplay making a sim worthy either.

I've learned quite early in on my SL Gor experience that nothing lasts forever here. Sims close, people leave, ideals change, partnerships dissolve, businesses close. This is the way of life and of SL too, only it seems to rotate much faster in SL then it does in life.

I second Mel's request to know which sims are closing.

[Carter Ebbage]

I've learned quite early in on my SL Gor experience that nothing lasts forever here. Sims close, people leave, ideals change, partnerships dissolve, businesses close. This is the way of life and of SL too, only it seems to rotate much faster in SL then it does in life.

Yup yup... SL is a constantly moving and evolving environment that reflects RL.. Woolworths, Kodak, Compaq ... East Germany, Yugoslavia, USSR, the "great" in Great Britain hahahaha all gone !!!

[Husam Darkfire]

While I agree it's unfortunate to see someone invest so much of their money and time only to see the venture not develop as it was hoped. But if you do some sim hopping, you'll find sims that are almost always empty or nearly so. Makes one wonder just how many gorean sims we really need compared to how many are out there.

As it is in nature, let the strongest survive.

[Garrgon Resident]

I love how the OP starts the post sad because this unnamed sim is closing, then goes to angry because we all suck and fail at respecting sim owners enough to spend our days sim hopping, then heads straight into an advertisement for the GRC sim.

 

[ramond lax]

There is a tremendous novelty about keeping a sim around JUST because it is old or established.  There is also a similar Novelty attached to those new and Upcoming sims that offer a 'Hope" for Gor.  Both of these Novelties are utter Garbage.  

The interests and the options of a Sim Evolve, as the people attached to those sims evolve, whether it is new people coming in and changing the Sim by pushing their own Interests (We MUST Combat more... or... we MUST RP more...) to the older sims whose people just get tired, frustrated, lazy, distracted, disinterested with their sim, and take to hiding away from the whole. No Sim will ever start of one way, gain people, and remain that way throughout, because no Sim exists exactly the way EVERYONE wants.  

I personally say if another sim is dying, let it die.  Focus on your Own Sim, whether you are an owner or a Resident.  It Doesn't Matter your role, Free or slave, Warrior or Candlestick maker.  Make a Commitment to it and fight for it.  Role Play on it.  Make it something people will see and WANT to be on.  You can't Plow your Neighbors field and leave your own crops to Die, because THEY will eat and YOU will starve.  Tend your own field first, and Then you can help feed them.

[Aphris Myoo]

I've learned quite early in on my SL Gor experience that nothing lasts forever here. Sims close, people leave, ideals change, partnerships dissolve, businesses close. This is the way of life and of SL too, only it seems to rotate much faster in SL then it does in life.

Yup yup... SL is a constantly moving and evolving environment that reflects RL.. Woolworths, Kodak, Compaq ... East Germany, Yugoslavia, USSR, the "great" in Great Britain hahahaha all gone !!!

And when the Scots seperate Brittain is gone too. Belgium was about to end. The stories continue.

[Husam Darkfire]

I personally say if another sim is dying, let it die.  Focus on your Own Sim, whether you are an owner or a Resident.  It Doesn't Matter your role, Free or slave, Warrior or Candlestick maker.  Make a Commitment to it and fight for it.  Role Play on it.  Make it something people will see and WANT to be on.

Agree fully and will add one more thing. Sim owners look at the ones that do fail. Look at why they fail and see if there might be warning signs for things on your sim that may be setting you up for the same fate.

For residents, invest yourself and do what you can to help your community thrive. Don't be concerned about traffic numbers. If it's a good sim with good people that actually care and take pride in their home, it will thrive and the numbers will follow. Assuming of course, sim owners insert themselves to take care of minor problems before they become major ones and you start to see a mass exodus.

Ask not what your sim can do for you, ask what you can do for your sim

[Garrgon Resident]

My cynical side is showing when I say this but this feels more like an advertisement then a genuine statement about sims closing.

Having said that...

I personally say if another sim is dying, let it die.  Focus on your Own Sim, whether you are an owner or a Resident.  It Doesn't Matter your role, Free or slave, Warrior or Candlestick maker.  Make a Commitment to it and fight for it.  Role Play on it.  Make it something people will see and WANT to be on.  You can't Plow your Neighbors field and leave your own crops to Die, because THEY will eat and YOU will starve.  Tend your own field first, and Then you can help feed them.

Yup.

[Spirit Lapis]

The main reason some sims close is because people's ideas change, they wish a change, to move on and build something new, they want to start again, or they just haven't the funding to do such.  It doesnt matter how old the sim is, or how busy it can get with quality roleplay, and it doesn't even matter how much us roleplayers wish the sim wouldnt close... at end of day, if the owner wants to move on they either sell it to someone who wants to keep it going, or closes completely.

I was part of Green Cliffs Inlet, a remarkable place to roleplay Gor, it was owned by Zarolin Milev.  I used to go there as a panther raiding all time just because the roleplay there was amazing... the people were awesome roleplayers and became long lasting friends.  I remember being capped there once with Malek and a few others, and myself and Zarolin would be laughing our faces off in voice chat about it all while still roleplaying. We musta talked for near on 24 hours non stop lol. We just got on so well!

Over time I submitted there, and I became owned. And well, the sim eventually had to close, dispite being a busy sim.  It reopened not long after as Bastion.  But that too had to close eventually and it was gone and is still gone today.  I understand why She had to close the sim down both times, I understand completely, and no amount of donations woulda helped it really... it was Her decision and I respect Her decision.

End of day... Sims close... new sims open to replace them.... we find other places to roleplay.... we need to respect the wishes of sim owners that decide to close sims and not make a big issue out of it. 

Nothing lasts forever.
Especially if those bloody Mayans are correct

Personally, i do what i can to support my new home at Port Cos. I've made two skinpacks which are on sale up in PC Marketplace, for a modest 500L each pack - which is donated completely in its entirety to the Sim Owners in order to put towards tier. I profit nothing at all from the work I did... all proceeds go to the sim. It may not seem like a lot but its something at least.

What i can suggest is, if you truly love the place you roleplay as 'home', consider doing something to show your gratittude to the owners for permitting the rp there. Show them your support, if your a creator consider donating something like i did, or donating lindens straight out. I am not saying donate every penny you have... every little helps the sim owners with tiers. Tiers can cost a fortune these days for full regions.

[Aphris Myoo]

Just got message that my old friend Ruffus Pinion opened a new Kataii camp. Old good wine in new sacks!

[Heaven Demina]

Just got message that my old friend Ruffus Pinion opened a new Kataii camp. Old good wine in new sacks!

Not strictly true, His 'slave de jour' did, so how long his involvement will last is anyone's guess (but i am taking bets ) 

(ETA: that was a joke just to be clear! He knows me well enough to know that)    

Anyhow, as for the OP, i cannot help echoing Garr's sentiment... this nameless cluster of sims that no one else seems to be aware of closing, does rather smack of being an advert for the GRC, not that i am anti GRC or ungrateful for the work they do and service provided to us, i would just rather a spade is called a spade..
Forgive my cynacism, but is SL search not just as effective.. just whack BTB, GE, whatever flavour you fancy in the search bar and step into your tardis..

[Xaz Elephas]

Sims close for many different reasons. It is sad when one does but as had been said here nothing last forever.  Sims come and go. People come and go. Running a sim is a huge undertaken. We closed Ka'zahr recently do to we are going to be a part of a new project. 

Some sims that close I miss... and the people who use to run them.  I always support what ever sim where my camp is with donations, getting people there, caring about it... I do what I can always.

[Bhoamar Landfall]

I think more than anything, sims close due to the lack of funds. It is a huge undertaking to purchase and keep a sim running. Past the purchse price of any where from $150 to , then the monthly tier of $295 a month, you have to have a decent design. factor in events (ie fights, dances, hidden packages) the cost increases.

Markets, rentals and donation boxes can only cover a fraction of the cost. I had a sim, sold it(health reasons) and have once again bought another sim attached to a very active sim. I do it because I like rping gor. I hate managing a sim. But in the end, I can afford it. With help from other members and a healthy dose of alchohol I will continue on.