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Nia Dinzeo
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« 25. May 2009, 15:05:20 »
Ok, so my amazing Mistress freed me.  It was a mutual decision as I need to explore and figure out what is next for me and my role.  Beinga kajira your kind of limited and I really have no desire at the moment to commit to another Master/slave relationship.

So, I know pretty much everything there is in reguards to being a kajira, but I am lost with no direction in being a free.  I traveled for a couple days, had on overwhelming amount of offers for roles in cities across gor.  It was mind blowing really.  I decided last night on my home, and to become a free in either the merchant caste or a peasant; thats as far as i got.  I recall in my reading of the books (the ones I have read so far) some talk of the merchants, but I mostly was involved in the love story and talk of slaves so i didn't take in to much details.  I will go back in my time off and read various parts again.

I would welcome any help in things I might should know in taking on the new role.   I am thinking spices, as many people know nia is quite fond of collecting honey.  Though, she gave it away most the time or traded it for fudge with the Amazing baker in Fina, and I'm not certain but I think it is against merchant law to not get paid for goods.... I also am torn between being a spice merchant or just a peasent who grows spices..I think I may in fact have more fun growing it myself rather then running around gor trying to find the ones who grow it.  And as a women to me it is more realistic, though the books I do recall one women that had great fortune amongst the merchants but we all know her fate.

If I did go with peasant how does that work.  I grow it or what not, then what.  Take it to market, trade?  I'm not certain about these parts.  And coins I know the names of curancy but being a kajira never having to deal with it I don't know much about the average worth of stuff to try and place a value on goods.  HELP ME please?

Just a side note:  are women with dirt stained clothes and smudged faces still cute? 

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« 25. May 2009, 15:16:16 »
What many people do who are new to the role and want to learn. Find someone who does what you want to do and study under them that's the best way to learn like the physcians you see them traveling alot so they can know more. Alot of people will help you just ask Smiley.

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« 25. May 2009, 15:40:10 »
Point the first: Yes, even and perhaps especially with a little dirt, you can still be cute. Hey, I'm adorable in ink. That counts, right? Tongue

Point the second: It's in your interest to see who the merchants are in your area. If you are harvesting spices that are of use to the local baker or tavern-keeper, then you can sell to them directly, for an awesome excuse to interact with people in town. If not, then you'll want to find a spice merchant who visits your city, and sell your wares to him.

As to the nature of Gorean currency, in most civilised places, there are three types of coins: the gold tarn, the silver tarsk, and the copper tarsk.

"A golden tarn disk was a small fortune. It would buy one of the great birds themselves, or as many as five slave girls."
(Tarnsman of Gor, 91)

"A silver tarsk is, to most Goreans, a coin of considerable value. In most exchanges it is valued at a hundred copper tarsks, each of which valued, commonly, at some ten to twenty tarsk bits. Ten silver tarsks, usually, is regarded as the equivalent of one gold piece, of one of the high cities."
(Rogue of Gor, 155)

"For purposes of comparison, in many paga taverns, one may have paga and food, and a girl for the alcove, if one wants, for a single copper tarsk. Dancers, to be sure, sometimes cost two."
(Renegades of Gor, 51-52)
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« 26. May 2009, 17:24:41 »
My best advice is to try out something low caste. Musicians are fun and so are herbalists. There are bakers, dressmakers, etc...
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« 26. May 2009, 20:51:28 »
Two very fun low caste roles for me would be a Perfumer... there is a lot of mystery in the creation of perfumes. Quotes on the Talander often secretly used by the Free Woman to entice a man but considered dangerous as it is to be used by slaves to signal wanting sex. Another is the desert vermimum flower. In Mauraders Tarl actually poses as a perfumer and tricks the Free Woman Haughty Hilda. Very good and funny reading and so much potential for great role play.

Another role I have seen and loved and wished more did it was the "Fortune Teller" or entertainer, storyteller, musician poet and singer. These take a great amount of work and preparation to do well.

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Bakers wore robes of yellow and brown.

I stayed for four days in the rooms above the shop of Dina of Turia, there I dyed my hair black and exchanged the robes of the merchant for the yellow and brown tunic of the Bakers; to which caste her father and two brothers had belonged.
---Nomads of Gor, 21:237

Cosmeticians are mentioned in Assassin of Gor
---Assassin of Gor, 9:111

Charcoal Makers

...I saw a wide, hunched figure, bending under a gigantic bundle of sticks, strapped to his back by two cords which he held twisted in his fists in front of his body. His stature and burden proclaimed him a member of the Caste of Carriers of Wood, or Woodsmen, that Gorean caste which, with the Caste of Charcoal Makers, provides most of the common fuel for the Gorean cities.
---Outlaw of Gor, 3:27

Cloth Workers

...The carders and the dyers, incidentally, are subcastes separate from the weavers. All are subcastes of the rug makers, which itself, interestingly, perhaps surprisingly, is accounted generally as a subcaste of the cloth workers. Rug makers themselves, however usually regard themselves in their various subcastes, as being independent of the cloth workers. A rug maker would not care to be confused with a maker of kaftans, turbans or djellabas.
---Tribesmen of Gor, 2:49-50

Bleachers (possibly a subcaste of the Cloth Workers) are mentioned in
---Assassin of Gor, 9:111

Goat Keepers are mentioned as a caste in
---Priest-Kings of Gor, 33:294-295

Leather Workers are mentioned as a caste in
---Captive of Gor, 13:234

Magicians are mentioned in
---Magicians of Gor, 17:259

Merchants wear robes of gold and white.

For example, women of the Merchants, like other women, might enjoy varying their garments in color and style. Goreans are proud of their castes. Whether the Merchants counts as a high caste or not is controversial, Merchants for, many others against. Similarly, is the caste of Slavers a subcaste of the Merchants or is it, rather, an independent caste, with an uneasy relationship to that of the Merchants?
---John Norman, Letter to the Gorean Group, Sept 20th 2000

Down the stairway slowly, in trailing white silk, bordered with gold, the colors of the Merchants, there regally descended the girl who was Aphris of Turia.

...Aphris of Turia, then, was of the caste of merchants.
---Nomads of Gor, 9:91

...I wore a white robe, woven of the wool of the Hurt, imported from distant Ar, trimmed with golden cloth, from Tor, the colors of the Merchant....
---Hunters of Gor, 1:7

Slavers wear robes of blue and yellow. They also frequently shave their heads and are considered a subcaste of the Merchants.

The Slavers, incidentally, are of the Merchant caste, though, in virtue of their merchandise and practices, their robes are different....
---Assassin of Gor, 15:208

Samos wore the blue and yellow robes of the Slaver....
---Hunters of Gor, 1:7

Metal Workers

My opponent was not Andreas, but a squat, powerful man with short-clipped yellow hair, Kron of Tharna, of the Caste of Metal Workers....
---Outlaw of Gor, 13:113

Smiths are a subcaste of the Metal Workers and mentioned in
---Assassin of Gor, 9:111
Musicians

...In most cities it is regarded, incidentally, as a criminal offense to enslave one of the caste of players. A similar decree, in most cities, stands against the enslavement of one who is of the caste of musicians.
---Beasts of Gor, 3:44

Peasants

Economically, the base of the Gorean life was the free peasant, which was perhaps the lowest but undoubtedly the most fundamental caste...
---Tarnsman of Gor, 3:43

...Even the Caste of Peasants regarded itself as the "Ox on which the Home Stone Rests" and could seldom be encouraged to leave their narrow strips of land, which they and their fathers before them had owned and made fruitful.
---Outlaw of Gor, 8:66

Rencers or rence growers are exclusive to Delta of the Vosk, they are said to be of higher caste than the Peasants and are mentioned throughout
---Raiders of Gor
Perfumers

My assistant, a large fellow, but obviously stupid, smooth-shaven as are the perfumers, in white and yellow silk, and golden sandals, bent over, hurried forward. He carried a tray of vials.
---Marauders of Gor, 8:111

Players wear robes of red and yellow.

The Players are not a Caste, nor a clan, but they tend to be a group apart, living their own lives. They are made up of men from various castes who often have little in common but the game, but that is more than enough. They are men who commonly have an extraordinary aptitude for the game but beyond this men who have become drunk on it, men lost in the subtle, abstract liquors of variation, pattern and victory, men who live for the game, who want it and need it as other men might want gold, or others power and women, or others the rolled, narcotic strings of toxic kanda.
---Assassin of Gor, 3:27

...In most cities it is regarded, incidentally, as a criminal offense to enslave one of the caste of players. A similar decree, in most cities, stands against the enslavement of one who is of the caste of musicians.
---Beasts of Gor, 3:44

Poets and Singers wear robes of aqua and red.

It could have been worse, I thought. After all, though the Caste of Singers, or Poets, was not a high caste, it had more prestige than, for example, the Caste of Pot-Makers or Saddle-Makers, with which it was sometimes compared....
---Outlaw of Gor, 12:103

Pot-Makers (Potters)

Hup's rag might once have been of the Caste of Potters....
---Assassin of Gor, 2:10

Saddle-Makers are mentioned as a caste in
---Outlaw of Gor, 12:103

Sailors (reference needed) wore robes of blue and gold.

Rope-Makers and Sail-Makers are considered more of a union than a caste.   Mentioned in
---Raiders of Gor, 10:134

Sleen Trainers wear brown and black and are mentioned in
---Beasts of Gor, 3:78

Tarn Keepers are mentioned as caste in
---Tarnsman of Gor, 11:132

Thieves are recognized as a caste only in Port Kar; they are identified by a mark rather than by colors.  Of course, anywhere in Gor but Port Kar, thieves will not be flaunting their trade as it is not a recognized one.

...On his right cheek, over the cheekbone was the Thief brand of the Caste of Thieves of Port Kar, who use the small brand to identify their members....
---Assassin of Gor, 7:96

Vintners wear white, decorated with green leaf patterns.  They are mentioned in
---Assassin of Gor, 3:29

Wood Carriers/Woodsmen

...I saw a wide, hunched figure, bending under a gigantic bundle of sticks, strapped to his back by two cords which he held twisted in his fists in front of his body. His stature and burden proclaimed him as a member of the Caste of Carriers of Wood, or Woodsmen, that Gorean caste which, with the Caste of Charcoal Makers, provides most of the common fuel for the Gorean cities.

The weight the man was carrying was prodigious, and would have staggered men of most castes, even that of the Warriors. The bundle reared itself at least a man's height above his bent back, and extended perhaps some four feet in width. I knew the support of that weight depended partly on the skillful use of the cords and back, but sheer strength was only too obviously necessary, and this man, and his caste brothers, over the generations, had been shaped to their task....
---Outlaw of Gor, 3:27

...The whiskers had been scraped from his face, probably by the blade of the broad, double-headed wood ax bound on top of the bundle. He wore the short, tattered sleeveless robe of his trade, with its leather back and shoulders....
---Outlaw of Gor, 3:27

...The Gorean woodsman, it might be mentioned, before he will strike a tree with his axe, speaks to the tree, begs its forgiveness and explains the use to which the wood will be put....
---Captive of Gor, 13:238


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« 27. May 2009, 01:30:42 »
With the current war going on, you might add some extra fun to your roleplay if you were also a spy. Let's say you were a perfumer. As you chat with your customers from city to city, you could also be eavesdropping and pick up some valuable information. Maybe you could seduce a high ranking citizen to gleen valuable battle plans. The role would be frought with danger, but some excitement as well.
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