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Author Topic: "There a Bosk Fly in my Stew!" Or: Why do slaves have to be perfect?  (Read 2768 times)
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Xaz Elephas
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« 19. September 2010, 03:03:28 »
Lately I have been thinking back to how Gor was when I started playing…you know how you do, back to the good old days when…   It dawned on me that back when I started playing slaves were, well, not so perfect. They made mistakes. They would some times trip doing a serve, or miss a crack in a cup. They were more human and made mistakes.  This sure brought about some great and sometimes funny role-play. It seems now that slaves have to be perfect and each serve they have to write new and try to stand out as the perfect slave. What happen to the human slaves? Why have they had to become these perfect fantasy robots of perfection? Why have we forced them to not be human anymore? I think this goes a lot to the Barbie looking slaves too that we as Gorean men have some how made them believe that is what we want. I don’t blame the girls for this but us Gorean men. I would like to push for a campaign to bring back the slaves on Gor that were fun. That use to make mistakes and were not chastised ooc for it or called Princesses for being human. I know some slaves do role-play out of the box and when I see one that does, wow so refreshing it is to see but for the most part, most slaves stay within the confined can of what SL Gor seems to expect of them on how they serve, how the act and down to even how they look. I say shame on us for this. Why can’t sometimes they serve us a bowl of soup with a bosk fly in they did not see. I miss the old Gor...when slaves where human.
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« 19. September 2010, 03:54:22 »
well said Xaz and I so freaking agree! It's become so worrying for slaves to even be human and why I rp the way I do lina because I figure, she is human.. she doesnt like to serve and get nothing in return, so I emote to that she doesnt. She wants things to herself. She isnt joyous to always go about and do work but does it cuz she has to and sometimes feel people may mistake that to lina not wanting to be a slave etc, but its not like that.. its really about emoting real feelings.. no slave was always happy to do all the work thrown at her.. I dont think so anyway.. And yes its sooooo much more fun to be realistic and not always perfect and strive to be the "perfect slave" who has "perfect sisters" and loves them all and never jealous, never upset with a Master, never angry.. Always happy happy happy! Its why I say, lets take off those masks and be human, but I really dont fault those slaves just like you dont Xaz.. its what you learn as you come in to Gor and think thats whats expected of you or you'd be classified as "bad slave". People become to thinking its whats right but dont realize they are not being realistic in their rp in that regard.. I like doing funny serves where lina attempts sneaking food, or rolling her eyes and whining to herself at having to serve once she is away from the FRee ofcourse.. lol or nudging a slave on the way trying to trip them.. Just being a normal human being, but one that knows better than try and do it right in the Free faces, hence lina tries to pretend to like things she doesnt at all. So here comes the big difference to me.. A slave can be outright rude tell a Free off, but knowing better than to do that and yet does it, thats not 100% right to me cuz slaves would have some fear from Free.. Or just being human having feelings, making mistakes without noticing but trying to hide anything negative and not be rude, etc.. I hope that made sense..

great post Xaz. next time lina serves you will make sure there is a fly in your food Cheesy
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« 19. September 2010, 05:11:35 »
I do agree with your post as well Xaz. I have always tried to rp the non typical slave, clumbsy at times, and one hell of a shitty cook. I have burnt myself, cut myself with a knife while getting bread. swore when there wasnt any fresh juice avaible and i had to make more, making sure it forgot to take out all the seeds while i made a mess smooshy out the juice. But these kinds of things i have a tendency to make with longer emotes that most times people cant wait for, or takes up to much chat space.
 For the most part though i do wish not to upset the free either. Yes i might try to be happy all the time. But if there is a chance i do make mistakes when i am serving to see if the other person notes. Most of the time it is hard for the opossing person to see the serve cause it is stuck in chat lag, there are ten other people around emoting at the same time, or you want to be quick by it and they sometiems just take the drink/food from you before you even emoting handing it over. Leaving me to hate to serve personally ooc cause my actions at times are not noted other then order to delievery nothing in the middle, unless thee room is empty and the serve is a one on one. and even then as been times i have been ingorned only until i am a the  Free's feet with drink in hand.
I am trying not to bash the other person i might be rping with, but i think it is a give and take, you ask for the order, i go and get it, give a little back, acknowledge that i am doing it, or then i just might do what nettle did the first time i saw her serve a Free, slip out to the backdoor and pee in your paga. *snickers*

Sorry if that went a little off topic, but i will say there are two bowls down by the docks sunken to the depths of the sea cause i had broken them while serving, and to hide the evidence i threw them a way.



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« 19. September 2010, 05:17:56 »
I love it that Lina is NOT your typical Slave always trying to be the best of everything as with Rani , both show that they are human , not Barbie doll slaves out to please anything that has ' humm well ' Lina maybe , tehehhe just kidding ' but yes I do agree with Xaz , NO body is perfect and really when rping , this is just me now , all that talk typeing they do to serve a fregging cup of black wine , well to me its just a wasted space in the area cause I do not read it im too busy trying to see what my next line might be ans sometimes it all gets lots in all that big todo about nothing  Smiley
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« 19. September 2010, 05:31:53 »
I recall one time Koh and I went into Treve and role-played putting crakes in every cup, bowl, and drinking vessel in the Tavern just to see what the slaves would do if they could not find that perfect cup to serve the Free. Not much role-play came from it as I think someone just role-played replacing them all. I think we all need to lighten up some and allow slaves to make mistakes, so they can stop walking on egg shells and we can all enjoy Gor how it use to be back when.  Yeah you both are out of the box and its always been fun to role-play with you both because I know it will not be the same ole' same ole' master/slave role-play. I start to almost twitch when a slave comes up to me now because I know what she is going to say before she says it. And like I said, its not there faults, its ours for forcing there role-play that way.
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« 19. September 2010, 05:36:44 »
I recall one time Koh and I went into Treve and role-played putting crakes in every cup, bowl, and drinking vessel in the Tavern just to see what the slaves would do if they could not find that perfect cup to serve the Free. Not much role-play came from it as I think someone just role-played replacing them all.

i remember that, i was outside the tavern at the time with Wanita,by that sitting area with the trees and was listening to you guys break everything. i cant remember now if i was made to serve after you broke them but i did comment to her in ims about "Omg those two BC are breaking all things in the tavern" i was very scared of both of you back then. Ever so much so of Koh, he scared the shit outta me in rp, it must have been that menacing way he knows how to look at you, sent shivers down my spine hehe. Xaz you scared me too, but Koh was good at evil.

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all that talk typeing they do to serve a fregging cup of black wine , well to me its just a wasted space in the area cause I do not read it im too busy trying to see what my next line might be ans sometimes it all gets lots in all that big todo about nothing 

Snapper hit it off prefectly there-if not want to even bother reading the text and having us rp it, then why even ask for the drink? i mean i will go drink it if asked, but i chose the role as a slave and been playing it for almost 2 years here in sl, and years ago in other chat place, which was full text para-rp type chat. where we did the full steps and fluffy foo foo serves.
But i want my rp to be enjoyed, i enjoy doing it, i want others to be able to respond to it, but if they arent, why should i bother in a sense?


--sorry Xaz not trying to detour from your oringal post--
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« 19. September 2010, 05:52:14 »
One time in Cos, few years ago, this slave started off with this normal serve.She emoted how she rose, how she walked, went over to reach up for a bowl and then...it happen, she lost her balance...hit some dishes that fell to the floor breaking a bowl fell into the water, splashing water all over... it got even worse from there...well ever Gorean man within chat range turned to watch her. She caught our attention. It was funny, it was ...well it was what could happen in real life... and it was different. It lauched a whole bunch of role-play. Other slaves rushed to help her, one got cut picking up broken glass... it was so much fun. Every Gorean man there enjoyed it and I think even a few FW that were around enjoyed it too. And that slave...each time I went back she was the one I wanted to serve me. It was not always like this but most of the times she always would do something different. She had my attention that was for sure. And again, its not the slaves faults, its ours as Free's.
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« 19. September 2010, 06:15:20 »
tehehe I do not think that anyone would EVER want Snapper to serve them anything she does not know how ( still learning gor ) and would most likely server everyone the dishwater , she doesnt know a black wine from Larma juice to serve only when its brought to her. So yes Iam thankful for the girls that do know all that stuff and Im sure every one else is too, but yes I do think that the free should not make them be so perfect.
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« 19. September 2010, 06:41:35 »
 I tried that once. was serving in fina and rped the cold box door sticking and when it got loose i fell back on my ass and even cried out. it went unnoticed. so while serveing the same free it happened again... the door stuck and i fell on my ass again... still nothing. it's kinda disheartening when you do do something out of the ordinary and it still goes unnoticed.
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« 19. September 2010, 06:50:12 »
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Personally, I have stopped going into the taverns and Inns because of the cookie cutter serves. I am often disapointed by the long serves that inevitably end up being the same thing over and over. "Kajira gets up and sways her hips to the servery, she reaches up  for a bowl, letting her seductive movements entertain the masters eyes....." thats about as far as I get before i go into "Oh look, a bosk fly!" mode

The best serve to happen to me resulted in me killing three men in Port Cos after I attempted to punish one of their slaves for a bad serve. That one event is what I have viewed as the highlight of my BC career. So I feel your pain Xaz. I just wish more slaves made the subtle honest mistakes on occassion that would get my attention.
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« 19. September 2010, 07:22:31 »
I tried that once. was serving in fina and rped the cold box door sticking and when it got loose i fell back on my ass and even cried out. it went unnoticed. so while serveing the same free it happened again... the door stuck and i fell on my ass again... still nothing. it's kinda disheartening when you do do something out of the ordinary and it still goes unnoticed.

thats the problem that some classify any of those behaviors as "bad slaves" and want just perfection, thats why many roleplayers playing slaves wouldnt dare thinking to do it.
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« 19. September 2010, 07:50:00 »
now i just spill the drink on me so they can lick it off...may have to try something new... Grin
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« 19. September 2010, 13:56:09 »
Haha i have to agree with this post. But there is a fine line too. When nettle was slave -phew- she did some things that probably would have found herself dead..i poured ale in Colins lap purposely because he pissed me off, put a dead spider in aseas drink because she pissed me off (after that she wouldnt let me serve) Tripped and fell with whole trays of drinks, Spit in peoples food (yeah i loathed serving many free) Bumped into Pax because i was half blind after being backhanded. I mixed drinks with a dirty ass finger, snuck and stole food constantly, Sampled the paga, Pissed in Althalus' paga. Served rotten fish...anyhow you get the point, The reason i did these things was not to get attention, but i personally cant emote a heated serve, maybe because i have really not felt that slavery deep enough to emote a serve with 57364 adjectives that describe the sway of my hips and how my tits jiggle and nipples get erect at the sight of a gorean male, Or perhaps im a bit too lesbian, None the less i aint gonna get wet from serving paga. 
I do remember getting a lot of shit in im--not from Free (of course there were some) but slaves telling me i shouldnt rp this...you need to kiss the cup and show your heat..you are just trying to get attention...why are you so dirty..why are you serving like that...you need to serve this way..Really it got old. Most of the time i ignored them, but yeah when a slave tells you in IM you are a drama queen or a princess wanting attention, it gets hurtful. Yeah i take that sorta crap personally, there were others that just tried to change me, wanting me to be someone i could not be happy with playing. But there is a fine line i guess on how you play your character, there are always gonna be those perfect slave in silks that will emote a beautiful serve..and then there will be that naughty slave that will put a bug in your drink. I personally try to enjoy both because in the end, both are from someones heart.
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« 19. September 2010, 16:23:06 »
Nettle , I wish  I could have been there to see all that , I would most likely still be laughing, and yes when a member slave tries to tell another how to play their part that is going above and beyond trying to godmod someone ,, and that within its self is WRONG!!! its your character no one else's has the right to tell you how to rp  Wink
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« 19. September 2010, 19:19:47 »
I love when slaves put their personality into their serves and roleplay. And I find it bothersome when others name call and treat them badly for it. Slaves that are creative and fun seem to get judged and tossed into the "princess" or "attention whore" catagory. I suppose a slave needs to be prepared to face the consiquences of dropping a dead spider into a free womans tea, still though, the slave that can do such a thing and pull it off...kudos to you! Our words and personalities are all that way have to set ourselves apart and be creative. Have fun and stop worrying about being perfect. Your human, you screw up..whether on Gor or Earth! Smiley
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