BtB Warrior Codes

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[Carter Ebbage]

I have always perceived Treve and its description as being closely aligned to Sparta

1. A warlike civilisation, constantly training, preparing, testing itself and its men for war

2. Very few could claim Spartan Citizenship..and only a man who at the age of 21, if he had survived the training of becoming a warrior, would be be granted citizenship.

3. Sparta was the only country/state that had a full time miltary presence and a culture driving the behaviour of its men and also, very importantly, its women

4. Suppressing and controlling territorites around itself... Sparta had only 10,000 warriors, but it controlled and enslaved 100,000's of people to farm and provide food for its people. It once killed 3,000 slaves as a show of its power and ruthless oppression of those not of Sparta

5. It had a deep suspicion of strangers and outsiders.. it was rare for other greeks to be allowed entry or visit the territories of Sparta

6. So feared and ruthless was it reputation.. that when several Spartan Warriors surrendered in battle, the belief and mythology of the supremecy of Spartan warriors was undermined to the extent that some historians say this was the start of its decline.

7. Famed for its warriors.. it was paid handsomely by other states to act as mercenaries.. training, guiding, fighting for other greek and foreign countries..including Rome.

8. Spartan women are unique.. the women enjoyed a status, power, and respect that was unknown in the rest of the classical world. They controlled their own properties, as well as the properties of male relatives who were away with the army. Spartan women rarely married before the age of 20, and unlike Athenian women who wore heavy, concealing clothes and were rarely seen outside the house, Spartan women wore short dresses and went where they pleased.

So I can see many comparisons to Treve and Sparta and just to emphasise and add some clarity to perhaps how Treve Women would act

Sayings of Spartan Women:

Because Damatria heard that her son was a coward and not worthy of her, she killed him when he arrived. This is the epigram about her: His mother killed Damatrius who broke the laws, She a Spartan lady, he a Spartan Youth.

As a woman was burying her son, a shabby old woman came up to her and said, "You poor woman, what a misfortune!" "No, by the two goddesses, what a good fortune," she replied, "because I bore him so that he might die for Sparta, and that is what has happened for me."

Another Spartan woman killed her son, who had deserted his post because he was unworthy of Sparta. She declared: "He was not my offspring for I did not bear one unworthy of Sparta."

Another, hearing that her son had fallen at his post, said: "Let the cowards be mourned. I, however, bury you without a tear, my son and Sparta's."

and of course the famous act of a Spartan Mother to her son and the words spoken to him when giving him his first shield

With it or on it.... "With it = victorious hero; on it = fallen hero; without it = coward."

[Jessy Mumfuzz]

Spartan women when given birth, If the child was to be thought of as weak, would be removed and taken to a mountain and left to die.
It wasnt seen as crual but as a way to breed healthy Spartan men.
I agree with you 100% Carter. I see alot of Spartan ways in Gor as well...

Queen Gorgo: Spartan!
King Leonidas: Yes, my lady?
Queen Gorgo: Come back with your shield, or on it.
King Leonidas: Yes, my lady.

In other words...come back carrying it or dead being carried on it.

Ohh I have to add this quote

Messenger: What makes this woman think she can speak among men?
Queen Gorgo: Because only Spartan women give birth to real men.

Persian General Slaughtered: Spartans, lay down your weapons.
[a spear flies out and impales him through the chest, and he falls out of the saddle, dead]
King Leonidas: Persians! Come and get them!

"In War." The inscription along with the name of the Spartan who died in combat. Spartans only got gravestones if they died in combat. Women got them if they died during child birth.


There are so many fabulous quotes that would work in Gor. Reading the books of Gor you can also see that John Norman used Sparta as an example.

[Anarch Allegiere]

Yes, the "Trevan Codes" was my concern as well and I was trying to find those Treve related Warrior quotes. I'll try to fix something together mainly using snippets from the books, so the codes will be open to interpretation... So we could get our own tangible "Trevan Warrior Codes" perhaps instead of those (for me) dreadful 100 aphorisms that are in our library. Perhaps looking into Spartan ethos might help alot as well.

People are welcome to help with more quotations (I got about 50 of them now, and even more  when adding the Treve ones). And I'll put the final work up for review on the forums then.

I will not try to paraphrase or express things differently than how they were in the books, cause I don't want to "make up" stuff. I want them to have references and citations towards the books.

[Anarch Allegiere]

This is the work I have so far... feedback from others on these "Trevan Warrior Codes" are appreciated.
Literal quotations are between parantheses ("") - Others are paraphrased from out of the books, often done so to reflect the Trevan ethos.

You hold in your hands the writings of the Trevan 
Warrior Codes, "something which, if taken 
literally would encourage it's believers to take 
not the slightest or most sane precaution for his 
safety." None but Warriors would understand. – 
Tarnsman of Gor chapter 3.

Warrior of Treve, do not extend these codes too 
much to those who do not share your Home Stone. 
For they are not as mighty as the Trevan Warriors, 
and by excluding them from our codes, we shall 
intimidate and keep power over them. - Trevan 
Ethos.

***

1. "Loyalty to the Ubar and the Home Stone." – 
Tarnsman of Gor chapter 3.

2. "Accept or slay those women who sumbit to you." 
"Unless the woman is of Trevan blood, the refusal 
of her submittance will be answered with a stigma 
of dishonor - but still free." - Players of Gor, 
page 21 & Tarnsman of Gor, chapter 8.

3. "If you want something of another man, 
challenge him for it by the weapon of his choice." 
– Tarnsman of Gor chapter 9.

4. "You are permitted to kill those, who lift 
their weapons in threat or violence towards you." 
– Outlaw of Gor, chapter 1

5. "The only death fit for a man is that in 
battle." – Priest Kings of Gor, chapter 1

6. "It's recommended to regard slave-girls as 
rightless animals, no more than subject beasts." – 
Priest Kings of Gor, chapter, 6

7. "A Warrior's companion is peril and steel." – 
Priest Kings of Gor, chapter 34.

8. "Be strong and do as you will. The swords of 
others will set you your limits." - Marauders of 
Gor, chapter 1

9. "Steel is the coinage of the Warrior." - 
Marauders of Gor, chapter 1

10. "Warriors shall not use poison." – 
Marauders of Gor, chapter 1

11. "Warriors shall keep their codes" - Beasts of 
Gor page 561.

12. "Warriors shall not talk to slaves of the 
codes." - Beasts of Gor page 561.

13. "Warriors shall die in battle." - Beasts of Gor 
page 560.

14. "Honor has many voices and many songs." - 
Witness of Gor, page 1100

15. "He who cannot think is not a man. Yet 
neither, too, is he who can only 
think." - Vagabonds of Gor, chapter 3.

16. Know that those Warriors not of Treve might 
expect you to show mercy upon their supposed 
"shared Home Stone called 'battle.'" Warriors of 
Treve know no mercy. - Renegades of Gor, chapter 
20 & Captive of Gor, p 362 & Spartan Ethos


17. Know that those men not of Treve might expect 
you, Warrior, to show mercy when they are unarmed.
Warriors of Treve know no mercy. – Bloodbrothers 
of Gor, page 756. & Captive of Gor, p 362 & 
Spartan Ethos

18. "The slave is a joy and convenience to the 
Warrior." – Magicians of Gor, chapter  19.

19. "Honor, has many voices, and many songs." 
(Said when a Trevan Warrior preferred to disobey 
his Ubar or superiours) - Witness of Gor, page 
1100

20. "The only honourable reply to a challenge" of 
fellow Trevans "is to accept it promptly.” - 
Tarnsman of Gor, chapter 6. & Trevan Ethos
(( This quote does -NOT- refer to duels. If you find a Warrior
offends your honor, just draw your blade and take him down.
This quote refers to 'challenges' in general - just to be a
healthy man and to understand the pleasure of 'friendly' competition ))

21. "Warriors have grit and courage." - Tribesmen 
of Gor, page 376.
 
22. "You see a fight you want, you take it."
"You see a woman you like, you take her."
You see something you want, you take it.
For you are a "Warrior" of Treve. - Beasts of Gor, 
page 52.

23. "Let each man choose his own treasures. The 
cynical, mercantile mind will never understand the 
mind of the soldier." Nor will other castes ever 
understand the mind of a Warrior. Nor will other 
cities ever understand the mind of a Trevan.  - 
Explorers of Gor, page 365. & Trevan Ethos

24. "Not everyone who is of the Warriors, knows 
that he is of the Warriors. By the mixing of blood 
and raping of conquered maids, the Caste will 
choose you." –  Rogue of Gor, page 471.

25. Do not fear to look upon the hunter and the 
killer in yourself. "Causes exist, that men may 
fight." - Guardsman of Gor, page 19.

26. "The sword must drink until it's thirst is 
satisfied." - Guardsman of Gor, page 20.

27. "It is not the uniform which makes the 
warrior" -  Magicians of gor, chapter 8.

28. "Maintain discipline by the blade." - Beasts 
of Gor, page 174

29. "Warrior, do not forswear your pledge" of 
steel and codes. - Outlaw of Gor, chapter 10.

30. "Warrior, your sword is bound in service to 
your superiors." - Outlaw of Gor, chapter 25.

31. "Warrior, know your codes." - Nomads of Gor, 
page 479.

32. "One who has shed your blood, or whose blood 
you have shed, becomes your sword brother, unless 
you formally repudiate the blood on your weapons."
As Trevan, be weary and suspicious about whom you 
share this honor with, few from outside our Home 
Stone, will ascend to the might and glory of a 
Trevan Warrior. - Tarnsman of Gor, chapter 10 & 
Trevan Ethos.

33. "Kill honorably and swiftly." - Nomads of Gor, 
chapter 16.

34. "Lift your sword in respect, the salute of a 
Gorean Warrior." - Beasts of Gor, page 592.

35. Know those Warriors that are not of Treve 
might try to lift their swords in salute to 
surrender or pay tribute. - Renegades of Gor, 
chapter 19.

36. "There is a time and a place for speaking, as 
there is a time and a place for steel." - 
Slavegirl of Gor, page 461.

37. "Never be weak in the way of things you love." 
- Tarnsman of Gor chapter 17.

38. “Do not fear your sentiments of tears. The 
Warrior is a man of deep passions, and emotion. 
Many men cannot even understand his depths. Do not 
fear your currents and your powers. In the soldier 
are flowers and storms. Each is a part of him, and 
each is real. Accept both. Deny neither.”  - 
Guardsman of Gor, page 365.

39. "Better to take the field with laughter, with 
a joke, with a light heart, with a buoyant heart, 
or to go forward with sterness, or in fury, or 
with hatred, or defiance, or calculation, but 
never with self-pity, never with sadness. Never 
such things, NEVER them! The Warrior does not kill 
himself or aid others in the doing of it." - 
Vagabonds of Gor, chapter 46.

40. Warrior, gold shall not lead you away from your codes. - Vagabonds of 
Gor, chapter 49.

41. Trevan Warrior, "live by rapine and plunder. 
Be proud, ruthless, fierce, brave and be fond of 
danger and women." - Raiders of Gor, p 271 & 
Priest-Kings of Gor, p 60

42. Trevan Warrior, pick your battles wisely and 
do not unnecessarily push pursuit. - Captive of 
Gor, pp 190

43. Trevan Warrior, enslave or kill those who 
trespass upon your Home Stone. And never bring a 
stranger to your city unhooded or unbound. -
Captive of Gor, p 191

44. Trevan Warrior, keep your 
slave-girls in the deepest of bondage, and
enjoy their closeness. - Captive of 
Gor, p 274

45. Trevan Warrior, keep those women you love in 
chain and collar. - Hunters of Gor, p 9

46. Trevan Warrior, respect the pride and beauty 
of your Free Women. Never subject them to the same 
supression and concealment of other cities. Never 
let them be found enslaved by others or on an 
auction block. - Priest-Kings of Gor, p 61.

47. "Every man is an Ubar within the steel of his 
sword." — Marauders of Gor, page 10.

48. "The Warrior Codes are nothing and 
everything." - Beasts of Gor, page 340

49. Trevan Warrior, never surrender in battle, for 
it will be treason to your Home Stone and it's 
decline. - Trevan Ethos

50. Hold deep suspicion of strangers and 
outsiders. Lend your sword only to them when paid 
handsomely. - Trevan Ethos

(...)

97. “Invisible but more beautiful than diamonds.”
“That which is silent but deafens thunder.”
“The same,as that which depresses no scale but is 
weightier than gold.”
“Honor” – Vagabonds of Gor, chapter 28.

***

There are more words and text within these Trevan 
Warrior Codes. Yet few stand out as clearly as the 
ones you've just read.

Never forget, you're a Trevan. Supress and 
control the rest of Gor and their inferior ways.



(( Extra note: These codes are everything and nothing for a Warrior.
What does this mean? No Warrior is expected to follow these codes literally and rigorously.
Honor has many voices and many songs. Just know that within these codes you can find your honor, as a Warrior.
Even if sometimes you've to disregard them for the 'greater' honor in general or because of personal believes and your
own individuality, as what you might find honorable or not.))



Written by Anarch Allegiere,
Version: 1.02

Contributions:
Dion Diavolo - Pelopidas (Research provided on Warrior related quotes and ethos)
Revenge Sempati (NCs prodived regarding Warrior Codes research)
Carter Ebbage - (Suggesting to weave Spartan/Trevan ethos into these codes).
Isabella Bergiere (spelling check)

(( Literal quotations are between parantheses ("") - Others are paraphrased from out of the books, often done so to reflect the Trevan ethos. ))

Added the proper contributors.
And an extra informative OOC note on how to interpret these codes.

[Jerrik Warden]

Anarch where you said "Ar doesnt recognize them for example". Before I joine dup with Treve Ar had tried to recruit me, because I am awesome, and the Ubar himself gave he a copy of the 100 aphorisms as he tried to get me to join the scarlets there. So I do not believe that Ar does not follow them.

[Anarch Allegiere]

Anarch where you said "Ar doesnt recognize them for example". Before I joine dup with Treve Ar had tried to recruit me, because I am awesome, and the Ubar himself gave he a copy of the 100 aphorisms as he tried to get me to join the scarlets there. So I do not believe that Ar does not follow them.

It matters little if Ar would recognize em or not. But I remember having a talk about the Warrior Codes with Crimson Spear. People brought up the 100 aphorisms and there it was Dyce and others, that at that point were RPing nothing more than being a Red Caste academy, said that those were not BtB. So I really doubt they'd hand them out in Imperial Ar unless the guy changed opinion.

Just to post one of the logs I can find from those days:

[2010/07/14 19:12]  Dyce Boucher: Benevolence is weak! Conan once said it truly! Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of the women! But, that has more to do with being a Man than honor!
[2010/07/14 19:14]  Anarch Allegiere: If benevolence is weak, what about the following quote?
[2010/07/14 19:14]  Anarch Allegiere: Aphorism 58 - A Warrior and an Initiate approached a stream, where they saw a lowly peasant child, who had been gathering tarsk dung for his family's cookfire. The child could not cross the stream, as rain had swollen it. Without a word the Warrior lifted the child and carried him across the stream, then set him down and continued upon his way. After the two travellers had walked for half an ahn, and gone over a pasang, the Initiate spoke:
[2010/07/14 19:14]  Anarch Allegiere: "How could you, a noble Warrior, carry a filthy unwashed peasant in your arms? He stank of dung." To which the Warrior replied: "Are you still carrying that peasant child? I myself set him down beside the stream, over half an ahn ago."
[2010/07/14 19:14]  Dyce Boucher: That is not a quote. There is only one quoted aphorism in the novels.
[2010/07/14 19:14]  Dyce Boucher: And that is the 97th Aphorism, which is honor.

Either way... my old days of taking my Warrior training very serious aside. I don't care for what Imperial Ar or doesn't do. Most people ... that look into these things will agree that the 100 aphorisms are not BtB.

[xanthia mistwalker]

45. Trevan Warrior, keep those women you love in 
chain and collar. - Hunters of Gor, p 9

A personal favorite.....