Emotional crisis on Gor

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[consuelo albanese]

I asked this question on another board and stirred up some interesting discussion, so I thought I'd ask it over here.

So there's this ongoing role-play in my village. Free Woman Elise and Jarl Erik had children a while back, twins of course, and since children are not played in SLGor they were fostered away for training. Their bond-maid (an Earth born barbarian) assisted in raising the children into their early teens before they were fostered, and now one of them has returned, fully grown and with a family of her own. Now this bond-maid, Ilse, sees herself in the mirror and realizes that she looks the same, unaged, after 20 odd years, and that her family on Earth is likely gone and she is forgotten and she has no prospects.

Norman never developed a slave character past the first rush of passionate love and submittal to her master, so I'm wondering what the Gorums think about the long term emotional effects on a slave. How might this play out? Would anyone even care?

[Xaz Elephas]

I rarely see a slave show any emotions other then her desire to please, serve, find the perfect master... claw her way past all the other slaves to try to be noticed. I can't remember the last time I saw a slave crying. I think some would care but I also think it would be very hard for Goreans to be epithetic in her plight or what she was feeling due mainly we as Goreans do not experience that type of a loss. I would like to see more barbarians talk more in there role-play about earth. In my role-play when I have time, I like to sit with a slave girl and hear her story. I pose questions to her as she tells me her story. I tell them they can speak freely. Those that are creative and have a different story I find refreshing. I am sure its hard sometimes too to try to come up with something orginal.

I think the role-play would be interesting if you can find the right person who would be willing to care.

[dana Tehani]

I actually rp lina every now and then stopping and missing her family but after so many years.. I think one accepts it in a way. I suppose you'd have those sad moments every now and then but just like if someone in your family dies, you need to move on and as a slave, you are really forced to for your own survival...

[ravyn blackheart]

Xaz come find me i have a great story though I'm gor born. I have cried, the whole sim has seen me cry I think. My Jarl being lost at sea tore me up, and it came out in my RP.  I messed up some I totally missed things, I hid, I cried... Dealing with his son, I get emotional and do thinks like kiss the side of his head like I used to do his father when he had the same style. We are people, we have emotions...it's just that most want to be cookie cutters and not show them. At least that's my opnion.

[Aislynne Melnik]

My thought is this ... if there is ANY way you can make your slave character different, unique, a little "out there" or full of mystery & stories then GO FOR IT!  Who wants a cookie-cutter slave?  Heck when I was a bond-maid, the sky was the limit ... I've attacked other slaves, had amnesia (gotta love the Alar camp for putting me up through that one as I reverted back to brand-new barbarian!, nearly burned down the bakery ... hell, lina is the QUEEN at this!

Slaves were NOT robots.  And barbarian slaves ... hell they have memories, stories, recipes, the works!  Whenever I hear people getting bored in Gor, the first thing I think is LAZY!  Use some imagination people.  That's what roleplay is all about. 

[Onyx Kerang]

If you want a slave that is different come find my slave and yes she is now known as earthy not a name I gave her but one that seemed to stick. She wanted to be different and rp from the start arriving from earth and not speaking the language. She found papers and scrolls and tried to learn the language not that I ever found that part out. I won't go on but earthy is a fun and hard working slave who as now come to understand what she now is.

Gold and steel

Black Ice

[Carter Ebbage]

This example of the future relationship or interactions between slave and owner epitomised the RP or mentality of both parties going forward..beyond the initial lust

1. Rask was known to be in love with one of his slave.. but it was observed he would never free her from her collar

2. Vikka commented that her mother was a slave, and her mother would never have allowed or accepted her freedom from the Father of Vikka, because she loved,admired and respected her Master too much and felt she was completely unworthy of such an action and would have undermined her Master in the eyes of others if such an action was undertaken.

This demonstrated to me that love, admiration, passion can exist without compromise to the status of both Master and Slave and the respective circumstances of being kept in bondage and dominance.

[Rayzor McAuley]

...... I would like to see more barbarians talk more in there role-play about earth. In my role-play when I have time, I like to sit with a slave girl and hear her story. I pose questions to her as she tells me her story. I tell them they can speak freely. Those that are creative and have a different story I find refreshing. I am sure its hard sometimes too to try to come up with something orginal.

I think the role-play would be interesting if you can find the right person who would be willing to care.

I do this as well.  I often even RP using phrases and bits of broken English learned from my earth-born bond-maid.  I think it adds spice to RP.

[Anya Zackerly]

It's fun playing an earth born person in gor! I have an alt that I play as my adopted sisters as they were both children when nabbed and are now free, and picked up a lot of recipes from the oldest. It was great in Ragnarok when I was the cook, cause I made kid friendly earth food in gor mode *giggles* and I'm always humming songs I picked up from Lina and Maddi *grins* and I noticed when Lina was a slave she had a couple earth moments that were really great to be around.

though I do think it would be interesting to see people confused and sad and stuff since they miss their home. even if it would make me sad to see them sad..Okay, that made no sense,s orry :/

[consuelo albanese]

It's fun playing an earth born person in gor! I have an alt that I play as my adopted sisters as they were both children when nabbed and are now free, and picked up a lot of recipes from the oldest. It was great in Ragnarok when I was the cook, cause I made kid friendly earth food in gor mode *giggles* and I'm always humming songs I picked up from Lina and Maddi *grins* and I noticed when Lina was a slave she had a couple earth moments that were really great to be around.

though I do think it would be interesting to see people confused and sad and stuff since they miss their home. even if it would make me sad to see them sad..Okay, that made no sense,s orry :/

That did made sense, and I agree that it's unfortunate that 99% of the SLGoreans seem to be linguists instead of the simple folk Norman portrays. 

[Liara Edring]

That did made sense, and I agree that it's unfortunate that 99% of the SLGoreans seem to be linguists instead of the simple folk Norman portrays.

Most of the characters I've run into, the men at least, know only one or two words in English (if they know any) due to slave girls teaching them, unless they have an Earth background themselves (which there is one Scarlet in Treve who does, but that's a long story!).  But my character and her cousin are the only ones who actually understand English that I know of, but that's due to background - my character's mother was from Earth, and taught her several languages of Earth, and she and her cousin made a game of using them as a sort of code language to talk about things between the two of them that few, if any, could understand.  I've used English with Liara to calm down newly-arrived slave girls who don't speak Gorean, but beyond that, it doesn't usually come into play.

But I do agree that most Goreans wouldn't know anything outside of a word or two (which may even have been incorporated into Gorean, given the number of slave girls that seem to come from Earth!).

[Tarlyn Dagger]

Most of the characters I've run into, the men at least, know only one or two words in English (if they know any) due to slave girls teaching them, unless they have an Earth background themselves (which there is one Scarlet in Treve who does, but that's a long story!).  But my character and her cousin are the only ones who actually understand English that I know of, but that's due to background

:nods: Tarlyn is Gorean born, and though her Companion, Kadden and his girl are both from Earth (hence the seraph tats they have, but that's another thread), the -exceedingly rare- occasions any reference to Earth comes up, Tarlyn's got no clue what they're babbling on about other than the 'ohhh - it's that again' type response.  She's never bothered to learn, she's got enough on her plate already, and honestly, why would she, if she really needs the info, she has them both at hand.

I do know Kadden tends to fight his Earth-born ideals at times with the Gorean mindset, it's why he gets conflicted between the "this is Gor, it's how it is" and "this isn't how I grew up" perspectives when the seldom 'brand new' earth girl shows up and has trouble adjusting to their new position, but it happens so rarely that I believe I've only seen it once.

As far as I'm concerned, it adds depth to his character, and breaks him from the 'cookie-cutter Warrior' mold.  I'd hope he'd not change for anything.

Not sure if he's the one you're speaking of or not Liara - don't think Kadden & Liara have met yet IC.

 ~ T

[Liara Edring]

Not sure if he's the one you're speaking of or not Liara - don't think Kadden & Liara have met yet IC.

 ~ T

They have met, but I had no idea he was originally from Earth!   Jerek Steel is the character I was speaking of.  But that's really quite interesting, I hope to be around sometime when he has another moral quandry, as it's great fun to watch those played out. 

[Ginger Shamrock]

Ginger was originally from Earth, and has a whole rp of getting used to being a slave, learning Gorean, etc.  When she was left for dead by her first master, after angering him greatly, she was rescued and freed by a Gorean she had befrended as a slave.   Long story, long ago. 

Now, even though she comes from Earth, she WILL NOT admit to such.  She is totally afraid that women from Earth are not considered to be fit for anything but slaves, and that if she is found out.... she will be re-enslaved.  So, you won't see her speaking English to any barbarians that come from Earth.  She will avoid them like the plague in case she is tempted!

[Siamie Hinterland]

2. Vikka commented that her mother was a slave, and her mother would never have allowed or accepted her freedom from the Father of Vikka, because she loved,admired and respected her Master too much and felt she was completely unworthy of such an action and would have undermined her Master in the eyes of others if such an action was undertaken.

Carter, do you have a qoute about this. Alot of people say that a Gorean man wouldnt have impregnanted his slave and if by some chance he did , he would free her. I would love to see a qoute.