Knowledge of FW owning a kajirus

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[Dina Vaniva]

Greetings all.

I am new on this site and also in some way new back in Gor. I took a long brake after having tried what i thought was worth trying. Now i am back and in a very different role, then i have ever been.

My character is at this moment looking for a new Home Stone. She is a vain, spoiled daughter of an Ubar who died as his city was raided and burned.

Dina knew the hidingplace of her fathers richness and treasure and that is what she lives of. She loves to be spoiled, bathed and covered in rich and delicious clothes, jewelery and perfumes...and she can affort it

As something new....yes i did it! lol - Dina has collared a kajirus - swallows. But yes...So i need all the onfo, NC and experience you can provide me with please. I have read several of the books but never seen a kajirus yet - only thralls and they are not pleasure boys in any way

I am a bit confused, but i guess Norman contradicts himself here too. I know free women are supposed to be frigid, but are they? Why have pleasure slaves then? I am looking forward to hearing from you as well as if any of you would have suggestions to where Dina and her boy would be able to live with great rp for us both? City as well as knowlede of kajirus as close to the books please )

BIG thanks in advance

[thyri Carver]

Read up about Jason or Milo.  There are VERY few quotes about male pleasure slaves because JN wanted to reinforce the point that women were frigid and sexually frustrated without being a slave to men. 

Jason was mostly a fighting slave but since he was an earth man he was viewed as weaker than a gorean man.  There's a scene where he was raped by his mistress so there's a jumping off point.

There's another quote out there where you had FW at a private auction for these male silk slaves. 

With Milo, many would argue he was gay, and its possible.  Its possible that he was just the way he was because he was a slave and obeying orders (not trying to turn this into a Milo debate because those can get heated).  I think Milo features a lot in Magicians. 

Good luck to you with your kajirus!

[Pleasure Denimore]

I too am also returning to GOR after a very long pause. Such a long pause that I consider myself to be a true noob.  I have also set out to become a free woman who owns pleasure slaves. I have found a wonderful place to call home at the Kajirii School of Chains.  Its a beautiful sim that is a BTB Free Woman Resort that specializes in the training of Kajirii fighting and pleasure slave.  This may be an excellent place for you and your kajirus to become more familiar with your new role.  Hope this helps a bit and you have a chance to come and take a look.  Be well.

[Dina Vaniva]

Thank you very much both of you. I will for sure try that place out.

My ownership lasted as long as the collaring, as i havent see the kajirus since and its a week. I hear there are many alts out there of free men wanting to try this out and who are rarely seen really...so. back looking again

Good luck to you as well!

[Isabella Bergiere]

I have had a notion for owning a gladiator...  well fighting slave lately!

Theres a lot of RP springing up from this atm but I have no idea where to look and I dont like subservient men.

Perhaps I could sponsor one rather than own, might be safer too as I'm not the most dominant -  he'd probably end up collaring me lolol.

[Husam Darkfire]

Perhaps I could sponsor one rather than own, might be safer too as I'm not the most dominant -  he'd probably end up collaring me lolol.

Oils up his tanned body and checks to make he has a collar on his belt and some binding fiber in his hand behind his back "Ohhh Bella. Where are you?"

[Liliana Aluveaux]

I definitely think the Mistress/kajirus relationship is completely different in private than it is in public. In public,  the kajirus is treated as non intimate as visibly possible. In private, he is there to listen to the woman's hopes and dreams. But in the end, he still knows he is submissive to her.

I know that most men hate the idea of kajiri running around. But, they have their place as well. There is nothing more appealing than a man who knows what he is and rps it to full capacity, be it a Free Man or kajirus.

I've actually met many men who actually rp their role well as a kajirus. So men out there... can you please not kill all of them and give them a chance to build in their roles? For god sakes if FW went around killing all the slaves because they are submissive there would be no one to please you and do everything you want.

[Husam Darkfire]

For god sakes if FW went around killing all the slaves because they are submissive there would be no one to please you and do everything you want.

Not true. As long as there are FW and collars, there's always a potential supply of more kajira

[Liliana Aluveaux]

Same goes for men  I'm just saying everyone should get a chance at their role ya know?

[thyri Carver]

I agree that many of the kajirii in SL ermm... I'm not sure of a nice way to put this without offending anyone but... well... the ones I've met are damn near effeminite.  There have just been SO few kajirii that are submissive and strong at the same time.  The guy that can look good on your arm, while protecting your back and look every bit of the free man in public, and be a hot toy in the sack.  Yah I know tall order.  But so many men are conditioned that submission somehow is wrong and there's a massive guilt issue from it.

I think that the kajirus SHOULD be scorned!  Not coddled after like some pampered pet.  Dont want your precious little Joey getting made fun of?  Lock his ass up then or dress him as a free man.  Because I'm sorry but dressing a man up in floofy silks makes him look like a bloody peacock, not a man. 

[Husam Darkfire]

Just a gigolo
everywhere I go
people know the part
I'm playing

[thyri Carver]

If Dave was a silk slave?  I'd so hit that sh*t

[Husam Darkfire]

If Dave was a silk slave?  I'd so hit that sh*t

One new avie coming up 

[Liliana Aluveaux]

Lets make this clear. A kajirus has to expect dislike from others that is obvious. But what I am also saying is some men out there will purposefully go out and kill kajiri no matter if they are good kajiri or not, JUST to kill them, because they don't think men should be submissive.(Usually OOC thought driven.) I am talking about men of the same homestone as the Free Woman owning the private slave, who, should have some tolerance or enough restraint not to kill the kajirus. I'd fully expect if the kajirus was let loose in say, Minus, that if recognized for what the kajirus was, would be killed.

Now, there are a few different types of kajiri one can play.

Male pleasure slaves - Usually women's private slaves, also these slaves might work in a bath house as an attendant (seeing to the fire)
Fighting slaves - Self explainitory, usually owned by a city but can be owned by a private party in form of a sponsorship (where the slave gets tiny perks), faught for their freedom
Male slaves - Enslaved men from times of war made to work in salt mines, wharves, and the like. Basically, work that lower caste men deem below them.

Male slaves in times of war
      -Hidden from public view (enemy), Dressed in garments to be mistaken as a High Caste (warrior) or low caste man.
      -Defending the homestone - POWs were given arms in respect that they would defend the homestone thus earning freedom. (IF they did not die on the battlefield.)

Male slaves vs female slaves
A lot felt kajiri were not true men because they were on their knees. So, if a male slave had the nerve to look at them, they would try and get them in trouble. ALSO, if a male slave touches a kajira without explicit permission of a Free, they can be killed or severely punished.

[Spacer Ghostraven]

Aye, these are many good points. I did manage to find a decne tkajrus once. He played a  male of a smaller stature, he was not one of the super beefy ones running around, but would keep always in mind his want to be a free man again, in private we were open with eachother, but in public he would do as was needed to avoid angering the free, avoiding death as much as possible as it is quite easy as you all know. Not that i much helped after all the OOC insults and abuse as well as ic threats on his life from men and warrior alike he left the gor scene. Usualy the trouble is finding one, that isnt owned already, getting them into your collar and in hopes they know the books a fair ammount and are creative enough and not a alting coward that will run at first time they are yelled at haha. I have met a good many who RPed out quite nicely.