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« 04. August 2011, 18:53:49 »
This may seem silly to say but I have enjoyed this discussion in a way that I don't often enjoy some of the more hot topics.  Great point Caranda and I think you may be correct in comparing it to Aiii.
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« 05. August 2011, 08:26:59 »
@Caranda: re bondmaid, what you say is just what I was told by an "old" german roleplayer acc to his experience. and i think this might really be the reason. most probably same refers to "be well" as abbreviation of "i with you well" - ok, that is not found in the books Wink

"aii" or "aye" or whatever, seems to me the cry when someone gets wounded...
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« 05. August 2011, 09:36:44 »
"Aii!" and "Aiii!" (and I think even "Aiiii!") seem to me to be used by JN as a sound to represent a cry of surprise or shock.

Some of the Gorean websites claim that these words mean "yes!" and you see this endlessly copy/pasted in SL notecards but this does not seem at all likely to me.  First because such a thing is never said in the books and second because there are many instances of Aii! etc being used where they would only make sense as a cry of surprise and not as an affirmation.

For example, in Nomads:

Aphris looked at him in fury, but then smiled. “Certainly,” she said and the proud Aphris of Turia, kneeling, bent forward, to eat the meat held in the hand of her master. Kamchak's laugh was cut short when she sank her fine white teeth into his hand with a savage bite.
"Aiii!” he howled, jumping up and sticking his bleeding hand into his mouth, sucking the blood from the wound.


Why on Gor would he cry out "yes!" at being savagely bitten?
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« 05. August 2011, 10:02:32 »
Jep, right! when hearing "aye", "aiii" it reminds me of some "drunken sailor" ... Wink
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« 05. August 2011, 14:19:48 »
Jep, right! when hearing "aye", "aiii" it reminds me of some "drunken sailor" ... Wink

I tend to type Aye purely because of my accent Nothing else. Its odd how sometimes my own personal accent seeps through into my RP haha.

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« 05. August 2011, 15:33:26 »
@revem:  Wink so I should be quite happy to speak a nearly "unwritable" dialect!!!
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« 05. August 2011, 15:44:17 »
@revem:  Wink so I should be quite happy to speak a nearly "unwritable" dialect!!!


Alot of people would tend to understand my spoken accent. Cause well the northerners Ive seen all type. in that scots type of way. which i never understood. haha.
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« 05. August 2011, 16:13:33 »
@revem:  Wink so I should be quite happy to speak a nearly "unwritable" dialect!!!


Alot of people would tend to understand my spoken accent. Cause well the northerners Ive seen all type. in that scots type of way. which i never understood. haha.
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« 05. August 2011, 21:30:14 »
Jep, right! when hearing "aye", "aiii" it reminds me of some "drunken sailor" ... Wink

"Aye" means "yes" in many modern day English dialects. So read "Aye" as "Yes"

"Aii" is Norman's doing, and seems to be an exclamation of surprise.

Might help with the confusion.
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« 05. August 2011, 22:08:12 »
@revem:  Wink so I should be quite happy to speak a nearly "unwritable" dialect!!!


Alot of people would tend to understand my spoken accent. Cause well the northerners Ive seen all type. in that scots type of way. which i never understood. haha.

THANK YOU! I have asked that question on this forum at least 10 times in the last months, and no one ever responds to me. Where did the idea that they speak with this accent come from? If anything, wouldn't they have a slightly nordic tic? I actually am not sure they would speak any differently than any other Gorean, but I could see maybe speaking with a less than sophisticated dialect as realistic. Where did the William Wallace speak come in? This is NOT meant as an insult in anyway to those who choose to do this, Pasy has an Inuit-based accent herself so I don't judge, I just ask where it comes from.
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« 05. August 2011, 23:41:39 »
@revem:  Wink so I should be quite happy to speak a nearly "unwritable" dialect!!!


Alot of people would tend to understand my spoken accent. Cause well the northerners Ive seen all type. in that scots type of way. which i never understood. haha.

THANK YOU! I have asked that question on this forum at least 10 times in the last months, and no one ever responds to me. Where did the idea that they speak with this accent come from? If anything, wouldn't they have a slightly nordic tic? I actually am not sure they would speak any differently than any other Gorean, but I could see maybe speaking with a less than sophisticated dialect as realistic. Where did the William Wallace speak come in? This is NOT meant as an insult in anyway to those who choose to do this, Pasy has an Inuit-based accent herself so I don't judge, I just ask where it comes from.

Hey now, I've said something about this several times recently. Wink
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« 06. August 2011, 02:39:28 »

Hey now, I've said something about this several times recently. Wink
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Yes you have and thank you too Rayzor, but does anyone have any clue where it came from? or how it started as a trend? I have seen whole sims that do this so I was just wondering. Smiley
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Hey now, I've said something about this several times recently. Wink

Yes you have and thank you too Rayzor, but does anyone have any clue where it came from? or how it started as a trend? I have seen whole sims that do this so I was just wondering. Smiley

At the risk of being whapped with a hammer, I think it started, or at least gained prominence, because of Bane of Ironhall.  Before he came to power, there were very few, if any, Torvies who spoke like that.  I could be wrong, but I don't remember anyone doing it before him.  It was explained to me that he and Branwyn are from a place called Axestad in eastern Torvaldsland and they sounded a bit different there, but it seems to have caught on nearly everywhere.
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« 06. August 2011, 03:43:30 »
@ Rayzor  Thank you! I have been wondering forever. LOL. ::marks a check next to her list of questions that have actually been answered and sends Rayzor a keg of mead::  Grin
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