After companionship...

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[Anarch Allegiere]

Here's a question that just generally popped up in my mind several times now:

"What happens with the Free Woman after her companionship contract (1 year) runs out and it does not get renewed?"

[Conall DeCuir]

She goes back from where she came from, her family or whatever she did before. What she owned when she entered Companionship still belongs to her .. should she have had any wealth or whatever.

[Rayzor McAuley]

She goes back from where she came from, her family or whatever she did before. What she owned when she entered Companionship still belongs to her .. should she have had any wealth or whatever.

Plus any children she bore for her companion would stay with the father.

[Anarch Allegiere]

Mhm.

So it would be beneficial for the family that companioned her out, that she would get a new man every year? Or perhaps upon renewal her family would have to be paid again a bridesprize?

I had the concept in mind that if a FW companioned a man that she would become part of -his- family. Thus if the companionship ended she would not have anywhere to go, and remain part of the family of the man.

This coming from reading some of the customs towards family and women in, for example, Ar. Where Free Women of High Caste would rarely ever see their parents and would be brought up in the high cylinders until she would be companioned out. With also keeping in mind that the custom there existed to not allow Free Women out of their quarters nor allow them to talk to men who are not their blood relatives.

If a Free Woman that never saw her family would get "un"companioned. I can't see her being returned to the high cylinders to wait until the next man buys her companionship... or I can be wrong...

[Rayzor McAuley]

In that case, Anarch, I think it would be up to the man.  Well, really anything is.  He could, I suppose, legally make her his ward if she had no family to return to.

As far as the bride price is concerned, I wouldn't think that it would be paid annually, but I could be mistaken.  I'm sure that Kaitlin will likely swoop in with the answer a little later on.   However, if the tables were turned and there was a dowry instead of a bride price, as mentioned in Marauders of Gor, I doubt that the woman's family would be forced to pay the groom to keep their daughter for another year.

[Isabella Bergiere]

oi oi!   Why ask this hmm

lol

[Canicus]

oi oi!   Why ask this hmm

There is only so much us men can take. Also interesting to know for when I get rid of lina... I mean erm...

[Rayzor McAuley]

Hmmm...it does seem that Isabella's number may be up.

[Anarch Allegiere]

oi oi!   Why ask this hmm

lol

Trying to figure out how much gold I can make with our daughters.

[Husam Darkfire]

oi oi!   Why ask this hmm

lol

Trying to figure out how much gold I can make with our daughters.

I'd say slap a collar on her and auction her off so you at least get something worth keeping from the ordeal, I mean relationship. But then depending on the woman, you might have to pay someone to take her off your hands. Including her family.

Or fatten her up and sell her buy the stone as tarn food.

[Tiara Platthy]

If i was a man i would not pay for the same woman...grins

[Sayrax wiefel]

Hope you have your nuptual's signed. She's going to get half your income and say you had children with other FW's.

[Kaitlin Eiren]

oi oi!   Why ask this hmm

lol

Trying to figure out how much gold I can make with our daughters.

Lots of gold!  Dren has gotten rich off me and his other wards.  See I was right Bella we did need to have the prim baby talk. *evil grin* 

As far as what happened she goes back to her family without the kids and likely wealth distribution would have been covered in the contract.  Most arranged companionships would have never been dissolved due to the political, financial and caste issues on top of the custody default to the father.  I'll dig out some quotes when I'm not traveling since I may be being influenced by my own devious shenanigans for my own FC a few months ago.

[Adoveea Rau]

Good question and one that I'm actually been roleplaying out since Nov 30,2009

Companionship:
Two concepts-oddly enough they are based on age of majority
Priest Kings of Gor Chapter One  "each Gorean whether male or female is expected to see the Saradar Mountains, in honor of the Priest Kings, at least once in this life, prior to his twenty fifth year"
I have another quote about something about when the stablization serums are administered but can't find it immediately, that age being approximately the average "adult" age. 18 is considered really not an adult- too young (Prize of Gor).

So now:
1) The free woman is old enough to be on her own in her caste work and manage finances. We have several examples of this in (Fighting slave of Gor) with the free women who were of the caste of slavers. They owned and ran slave houses. They also decide their own contracts of companionship
2) The free woman is not old enough, and has no family. There is the example of Aphris of Turia in Nomads of Gor. The caste of merchants, which her father belong to, (father is dead) appointed a guardian for her, because she was without family, and not the age of majority yet to inherit her fortune. (chapter 9 Nomads of Gor).

Bride price is that one time sum the family/guardians whatever feel the women is worth to them. You're getting status/skills/family political clout/connections for that time you are companion to that woman, that's what you're paying for with a bride price. A renewal doesn't mean another sum of coins, a renewal of the *contract*  means you keep those status/skills/political clout continuing.

Now from what I put together from all of this, you terminate the contract, she returns to the family/caste/appointed guardian or is on her own.
As an adult she has the full control of her goods/etc so no bride price because she makes her own companionship decisions as well. Yeah, she can terminate the contract too and say no renewal.
As an underaged woman, I can see another bride price paid because that free woman is still under the rule of family/caste/guardians and someone else could  get the possibility now of her sharing her inheritance with her companion when she reaches her majority.

My own roleplay using all this:

It's been my ongoing roleplay to get Dove *old* enough to be in her majority since Nov 30,2009. Every four months I get to add a year to her gorean *age*.
I've had guardians, warrior by caste,  who were the head of the tarn house since Nov 30,2009, It's how I ended up in companionship, because DracoSilverwing Allen paid a bride price to Brigand Hancroft (Brigand was head of the Tarn House), then Brigand turned over the head of the House title to Eros. Eros give the title to Draco when he companioned me as part of the contract deal.
Now Draco has real life to do, and our companionship contract ended on July 29th- so of course it is not renewed.  So I am STILL not old enough (hurry up Dec 1 2011!!) and I'm again stuck with either Eros (the Evil Admin) or Draco  as head of the house and cannot determine my own companionship contracts or have full control of the tarn house.
See why temporary death and being rolled back to being underage is horrible when you do long term roleplay?

[Shyla Timeless]

So if a woman is of age and her companionship expires or she chooses to not renew for whatever reason, she is free to make her own choice in the future and organize any arrangements as she sees fit?

One more question:  If she has no family to "return to" and is of age, does she or should she seek a guardian until a suitable companion is found?

I read all of the posts but I am still unsure on these points.