About Outlaws and Their Free Women

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[Tiara Platthy]

I was wondering, Can you guys help me to find quotes about free women living with outlaws? Because I found some quotes about the outlaws in northern forests talking like..."band of women and bands of men". I also wonder why a FW who has all her rights in her city go out of the city to live with outlaws...

Many says because they can be forced to get married with someone they do not want... (Why a woman took the risk to be enslaved by someone or raped by outlaws or killed by panthers instead of marrying a man whom she does not love?)

Some says because they are almost collared so they run away. This is a reasonable reason because they may stay free and alive. or for the worst scenary they get enslaved. Now here is the question. Why would outlaws let them stay as free instead of collaring and selling them and making profit?

And again the main question is why would a woman run from a city where is is protected by law, to a band of men whom she can not stop to do anything to her as there is no law. I find this reaaly stupid

So please enlighten me with your opinions and some quotes please...

[Loredana Varonia]

the only thing I can add presently is: not all the free women on gor are living in cities!and panthers are free woman, too, and as they also use to capture males and enslave them, it might not be too easy to enslave these women!

[Tiara Platthy]

Surely, I can understand a woman can run away from male domination to woods to live with panthers. The part i dont understand they run from men of cities to men of woods :/ Does not make sense to me...

[Reven]

Well.. Hers my opinion. dont have quotes atm.

My character lives with the outlaws. It made Ic sense for her to be there. She was a physician in training in Treve. One night all her friends fled Minus and Treve for reasons unknown to her at the time. She stayed behind because she had a task to finish. She ended up kililng her companion getting final revenge on him for killing her father. Another long story into that.

But she fits in with the outlaws. Reven who is now known as Maeve. She was always the shady underhanded peasant woman. She tried to train as a physician but at the same time was slowly poisoning her companion to weaken him so she would be able to kill him at the right time lol.

She knew IC where her friends went to. She had made enough coin to cover her journey. Hiring escorts as she went from port to port. Though it cost almost all her coin to get to the place she was told they would be. She didnt know she would be safe. She had no clue what it held. She turned up at the place on the map that was left. Covered in dried in mud blood and all that jazz and begged herself a Guardian. And she behaves good enough and works hard enough for them to allow her to remain free.

I never thought once to become a panther  - Purely because I did not want to use bows, scavange etc. I make coin from the Kennel to beable to pay for my food my care etc.

Which I think is the important part here.  The outlaws allow my character to remain free as long as I act a certain way. Behave a certain way. My character understands full well if she pisses off her Guardian she could be collared permanently.

[Tiara Platthy]

You said you are working hard for them... perfect... can you tell me what are you doing for them a slave can not? What do they lose enslaving you?

[Reven]

I have always been active in the kennel. Was a kennel Mistress till our head slaver vanished. we reckon he went out to the woods to get stock but got caught by them wild women Which in turn left me as the only person running the kennel.

So I ended up becoming Slaver and running the kennel. I am supposed to, pay x amount of my earnings to the Guardian I belong to. But that is another story in itself too! haha

There is parts of my Slaver duties that slaves cant do themselves..

[Tiara Platthy]

A first girl can do what a kennel Mistress can so far i know... what a First girl cant do that a kennel Mistress can?

[Loredana Varonia]

@Tiara: so let me add another question ... why are there not much more slaves on Gor than only the mx 5% acc to the books?  Wouldn't this be much more comfortable for men?

[Reven]

A first girl can do what a kennel Mistress can so far i know... what a First girl cant do that a kennel Mistress can?

Well thats true.

 But now I am slaver - I buy/sell slaves, I brand, I hire staff needed to do so for the kennel. Slaves cant do that.

@Tiara: so let me add another question ... why are there not much more slaves on Gor than only the mx 5% acc to the books?  Wouldn't this be much more comfortable for men?

Welcome to SL gor.. Is all I can say regarding that. You could also go into the amount of FW, The lack of armies on sims. The ability to TP instead of using boat or tarnback. The limitless blackwine, binding fibre collars. Never ending infirmary supplies. That some places have

[Loredana Varonia]

I know all this, Reven... but questions starting with "why" are not so much useful on SL Gor I think. That is what I wanted to point out.

and a kennel mistress or as it is often called a kenneler, is a slave! And I have never read of these two "jobs" in the books. most probably inventions for jobless free women on sl-gor!

[Tiara Platthy]

@ Reven

I do understand that you are doing alot for tjem and you are working etc etc... but if we think realistic, in place where slaves are rare, would men leave an abandoned women at her feet to take care of their slaves? I dont think so

Please do not take it personal i am just seeking for information. I do understand your reasons to leave your city. But i really wonder if there are women in the books living with outlaws in the forests. If yes how they are treated? etc etc.

[Anarch Allegiere]

For any random outlaw encampment out there? It would make little sense.

For Clearchus? It makes good sense, in the fact that it was more of a settlement than a random band of men living in camps and tents, roaming from forest clearing to forest clearing. Would be pretty hard to become a state, as the books claim it could've become (and is now in SL Gor) if it would have no more standard societal structure, eg. free man + free woman = family. Now that Clearchus has a home-stone and will be simulating the theme of outlaws and caste-citizens living together in a heavy 'crime' oriented society (like Port Kar), it makes even more sense to have Free Women... obviously.

A place where all women would get collared is an extreme form of society in Gor, acceptable if you're a small band of men perhaps, but for bigger societies it only existed in Tharna in the books.

[Grondar Quartz]

well said Anarch, effectively we are forging a "Port Kar" like society, and for that to work realistically you ned to have a spread of citizens , slaves etc simply to function as a city , also to a certain degree laws although with so many outlaws living here Laws tend to be loose, sort of guidelines

[Tiara Platthy]

Again i did not say that for clearchus... It is a general topic, and i do know you are trying to turn it into an Ubarate etc... So if an outlaw group do not want to turn in to port Kar does it makes sense to have FW at their band?

[Grondar Quartz]

it depends how the band came together Tia I think just a random group inthe forest I think maybe they woud have slaves or enslave most women that wander their way , it would have to be a very exceptional woman to avoid the collar if all they wanted to dowas have people to cook and clean for them and sell the rest for the coin