Why Lady Dove gets tired at times

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[Adoveea Rau]

You know, players often vent, yell or call mods etc.etc. Its not my habit to do so, and there's a few people, and I do mean a few people who I do tell what has happened and my feelings about the roleplay/ooc.

But once in while it piles up, when it happens day after day.

So today I am going to list out just a *FEW* things of that have happened to me in approximately the last month in Gor, there are more..so much more
Some scenes people will recognize, other scenes they will go "what?? you never said a word!!"

Why am I doing this? Maybe because I'm just so tired....and want to hear someone besides myself telling myself -"it's okay.. it happens, they don't know, different goals and visions of gor,  move on, move on..keep going. it will be better tomorrow"

Realize when I say I went to my building pad, it's an 1 to 3 hours after enough incidents finally pile up in a day and the last one is enough to make me say " I need to get away from this" and go to my building pad.

I greet a man at inn as he comes in. Note the word "inn". It's a gathering
place for everyone on the sim, and  I was sitting at my usual table drinking blackwine, doing my charts, my entire sentence to him upon seeing him is : "tal"
 "You need a collar for being in a tavern you slut"
I informed him this was an inn, a general purpose place for everyone, the tavern is down the road there. Then..
I got up and went to my building pad on the mainland

I was standing in front of a scribal hall in the city admiring the textures on the
build when a warrior walks up and tells me "I'm going to collar you, you're
out of your house ". This is when I tell you readers that he thought that was good gorean roleplay, because he informed me that all free women are never supposed to leave their house.After I re educated him with quotes, give him forum webpage articles and pointed him to the library...
I went to my building pad on the mainland.

Some running raider attempted to shoot me multiple times while I worked
on a part of the sim build alone. My meter was ooc, and I was wearing a
title that said OOC Builder as per sim rules. In order to get to me,he had to
cross 3/4 of the sim out of the main area. I simply  kept on working, ignoring
it. I then recieve a very nasty IM with *c**t*  *bitch* cheat etc... (you get the
idea.) My only reply "read the sim rules about builders with ooc tag and number of raider/defenders " I closed the IM, muted him.
And kept on working on my sim building pad.

A guy got this idea for the free women in the city to be put up for auction in
roleplay to get a free companion, and there were many single free woman
who were excited and thrilled about the idea. I held my tongue and said
nothing, good roleplay for them, was my thought, even if it's way out of the
books on that one. Hey I'm not going to spoil their fun.  One went to auction
and they had fun.Then this guy tells me I'm going to be next, over many
other women who really would of appreciated that type of roleplay. He
thought it was something that was done in Gor.
I sent a very terse IM explaining about how companionships are done,
rights of the adult FW with family and what auctions were really for..
I went to my building pad on the mainland.

I was speaking to two free woman while on my thalarion,we were having
some good gossipy roleplay, and a tarnsman of the city flying over us starts
shooting the bow and hitting me. The majority of the shots were on me not
the thalarion, he's attempting to kill my personal property and he's shooting
downward in the area of three of the FW he's supposed to protect. His excuse was "I hate thalarions and I was what i aiming at it, not you"He couldn't see anything wrong with that.
I went to my building pad on the mainland

In roleplay I was informed that as a Free woman, I should be less prudish
and enjoy watching slave girls dance.  He didn't have the same attitude for
himself when I offered to bring in male pleasure dancing slaves for him to enjoy watching
I went to my building pad.

I'm in the sim and some guy walks up and informs me he can claim me. I said no, you can't, this isn't Port Kar.
I went to my building pad

In roleplay I went through a very enjoyable ridiculous scene about getting
someone to take a bath. The emotes were great by everyone. All seemed
fine, then I get a IM two hours later from  the guy  about how I humiliated
him etc.etc. and his feelings about how I made him feel like a whimp about
how he felt his character was played on blah blah all oocwise.  He then got upset because I didn't care how he felt oocwise because I  kept asking why are you bothering me with your ooc feelings about it? Then went on to tell me how I manipulate players, god mode, and play a terrible  FW
I simply let him vent and I couldn't go to my building pad...I was already there, teach me to answer an IM.

 I wear full concealment from head to foot, hoods, 5 veils, gloves no body
shape at all showing due to my layers.. After dealing with eight different guys on eight different days telling me I shouldn't wear a hood, and that I wasn't a good free woman avatar visually because my  hair was hidden and my face wasn't in a transparent veil like other free women. And all of those guys offered to buy me some "better FW garb" to give me a body shape..so I could be a *real* gorean free woman.

I finally went to my building pad and stayed there a bit longer. much much  longer.

I expect folks to say things like "she's just looking for sympathy".."she's just whining"..'thats not the full story or what was intended blah blah blah".

Well folks, as I said, each one of those was the final straw on a series of incidents in a day..except the last one, about the garb, that was the final end of 8 different days.

[Bhoamar Landfall]

*laughs as I read the 8 days of gorean hell, as I sit in My linden home and ponder if I should venture out once more*

Dove I feel for Ya.

No one bothers to read or learn.

A thousand and one examples of why bother.

*as I go back to sitting in My Linden House*

[snowtora]

Aye im tired too i always find funniest rp is the unexpected dove knows i can make free women go speechless or ruffle them too point they storm off  i enjoy my Rp but sometimes it seems like all people want too do in Gor is cause drama flak too people they dislike least we have a good solid mute button i do atest i need it more so then others and i remember the day her tharlarions took fire all because he disliked them well i enjoy having animal part of rp tarns men tharlarions tabuk it adds too the role play but when people cant read sim rules about building then chew you out for following it they get mad cause they cant capture who they want drama is apart of gor and all we can do is step back mute or leave it too Fester till it goes away

[Daved Calderwood]

I first met Lady Dove when I was but a trainee for the Black Caste. I tried to be cool and scary and she got even more cool and scary.

I took off back to the camp where I hid under a bed until Xaz told me to come out and not be such a chicken...

[Jerrod Nirvana]

I totally empathise!  It seems to come in cycles.  I'll have weeks, where everything seems to be fairly pleasant and everyone I come across is of the good sort.  Then, I have those exact weeks you're talking about, where I swear no matter where I go or what I do, everyone has a stick up their ass!  I even had some weird vampire/panther..  still not sure what she was, just arbitrarily come into my IM's and tell me how I know shit about Gor and am a "sicko" because my OOC Sl partner is also my IC kajira.  So..  vent all ya want sis!!  Fu..k'em all Im with ya!! lol

[Adoveea Rau]

Well I'll name one reason why I keep returning to gor, and even the person too. Because of the roleplay..even IF I keep living on my building pad alot more these days. It's incidents like this that give me hope.


It was a raid on Ivar's by Fina. Jessy had to be moderator, so she tells
"granny"(me) to hop in the chest in the free woman's house. I hop in, it has a pose ball that scrunches up my avatar so I fit and the lid closes. It's a scruffy looking chest. We have several chests in the free woman's house.
The raiders went everywhere, then Duo Lineker of Fina walks into the FW house, emotes looking around,flipping open the lid on another chest, then another (those are gcm chest stuffed with gcm items, and they are really nice rich looking chests).
Then he emotes sitting on the old battered chest I'm in to look around again-(I was laughing so hard oocwise at that point at the screen I couldn't write a word)
He then gets up and emotes/yells out to his fellow raiders there were no one in the house and goes out.

Three lines of roleplay, that's all he did, but it made me smile and tell myself "see? there are good roleplayers still out there that can do something right".

Laughs so hard about what Daved wrote!! it wasn't that bad...

Problem is,I even put a chair and rug down on my building pad now...

[Nightwing Spyker]

Spike huffs, 'Dat woman had da nerves to suggusts to mes I would makes a good thalarion jockey!' I went to my mainland home and sulked afterwards, <snicker>

[Byron Greenwood]

I know exactly where you're coming from, Lady Dove. After years of helping to improve Black Caste roleplay in SL-Gor, I had one Assassin hunt me down because I apparently threatened his slave and thus, somehow, made him out to be a fool, and also because I had supposedly abandoned by caste because I hadn't logged on for a while. Even after explaining how daft all that was he went on with the show. Chap didn't even have the guts to face me in single combat, but needed three pals to back him up. I don't have a building pad, so I just went to the proverbial pub after that. On the other hand, I still get presented with roleplay like this, and today I met an Assassin, new to me, who's IC and OOC conduct was exemplary. So, like an annoying tax bill, I keep coming back. Hope springs eternal, as they say.

[Sayrax wiefel]

The woes of being a creator

[luce]

I want to use the agree button but there is not one.....

There are times even I, a novice by any standards, wonder if I had landed in the right place.  I know I am not everyones cup of tea in my rp style but I choose to play that character and will be loyal to that.  The constant IM’s complaining to me about that’s not how we do that blah blah  (can we just punish IC and get out of my box ) while I’m watching them drink gallons of blackwine and fighting with panthers raiding the village  and thinking ehhhh!  Do I get in their IM and tell them off ? No I choose to ignore it and do my little thing…….LUCE has left the building for good!

[Gorm]

One of the reasons why I roleplay more and more with selected individuals, besides the fact that i like ongoing stories and hate to drift in to the eternal group of people being in a sim acting and thinking they are themselves and gets offended, if you act in anyway gorean and despice they have spent lots of time in Gor, have no idea what roelplay is!

Why I rarely participates in group chat, as you just have to stick your nose in, before some teacher like woman, tells you off, not understanding when you say a joke, a statement or actually ask a question. I hate the constant assuming of knowing better and having to tell people what is right and what is not - what happended to asking questions, making a grown up dialogue between two equals?

[Poisonous Adored]

90% of people playing in Gor are unable to play a Gorean. They are unable to get rid in their RP of their Earthen mentality, they RP sweet ladies and gentlemen, or free sluts and assholes. Mostmen  accuse a cold, frigid FW to be without honor because she is mean to them when they compliment her for her lovely eyes, because she gossips, because she plots, and they find honor to the one who show her face through her sheer veil bec­ause this one, she thanks them for the same compliment and who is always nice.
Kajirae never emote their fear toward FW, and anyway, as FW cuddle them, huh... Kajirae playing human feelings like hatred and jealousy (which is 100% BTB) are been told OOC there is no place for trouble makers. And anyway, usually, people expect from kajirae they play no more than a role of waitress. Too, almost everyone wants to look good, honest, honor, blah blah blah. Oh, and win in every situation, of course.
And I wont even speak about metagaming, godmodding, poor RP, one liners...

I got a period of real burn out, long break. And finally, I play a new character with an alt, with friends who belong to these 10% of people who understand the Gorean mentality and are creative in a RP rich in emotions. All character's personalities confront with each other, in IC dramas, intrigues, plots, intense moments, joys and laughs as well. A mature RP base.

[Daved Calderwood]

90% of people playing in Gor are unable to play a Gorean. They are unable to get rid in their RP of their Earthen mentality, they RP sweet ladies and gentlemen, or free sluts and assholes. Mostmen  accuse a cold, frigid FW to be without honor because she is mean to them when they compliment her for her lovely eyes, because she gossips, because she plots, and they find honor to the one who show her face through her sheer veil bec­ause this one, she thanks them for the same compliment and who is always nice.
Kajirae never emote their fear toward FW, and anyway, as FW cuddle them, huh... Kajirae playing human feelings like hatred and jealousy (which is 100% BTB) are been told OOC there is no place for trouble makers. And anyway, usually, people expect from kajirae they play no more than a role of waitress. Too, almost everyone wants to look good, honest, honor, blah blah blah. Oh, and win in every situation, of course.
And I wont even speak about metagaming, godmodding, poor RP, one liners...

I got a period of real burn out, long break. And finally, I play a new character with an alt, with friends who belong to these 10% of people who understand the Gorean mentality and are creative in a RP rich in emotions. All character's personalities confront with each other, in IC dramas, intrigues, plots, intense moments, joys and laughs as well. A mature RP base.

I am not sure that I can completely agree with all of what you said. 90%? I think that's a little harsh. Sure you have folks that do exactly as you described and I have seen it for myself. As with every online game you are going to get the good and the bad in any kind of situation. The thing is for example I don't know the reason why a FW would cuddle a slave but I can't draw a definite conclusion on it and say  "well in the books we don't so it shouldn't happen here." Truth is there is alot of things that isn't covered by the books that we have to contend with and the one for me that sticks out the most is the individual stories we all have that is most definitely not by the books, we can go for "close" but I don't think it could ever be entirely in line with the books. So in this sl-gor we can have a little wiggle room, we can show a little more personalization with our characters and how we interact because it is our stories , our roleplay.  Maybe the problem is that the books incorporated our Earth into the the stories written there being there is an influence or earth culture and people there on Gor. Maybe it's the fact that our own RL personas can sometimes get too reflected on the characters we use. It's hard to say and i know there are bound to be mistakes made in game where the person is not as knowledgeable as the next person, it happens.

I don't think there is a strict standard on what a Gorean person is, I understand they have  codes they follow, the philosophy of their honor and traditions and customs they live by but even in the books you had characters that didn't always follow it. I think if we tried to be a carbon copy of the books then really what is the point of being in game. I would find it so incredibly boring that there would be no kind of individualism, where you can get into some unique situations and have some interesting roleplay rather than just following example of a book.   

I do get where you are coming from like when a kajira is told in IM's to behave and stop being a trouble maker because she got jealous, I don't think that is right either. Metagoming , godmoding and those oneliners absolutely I agree with you and like you I won't get into it. Maybe I am not burned out so much so I can be a little more forgiving when I see mistakes like the ones you mentioned earlier, then again I could also see myself getting just as frustrated if I was in game a few months later.

[Poisonous Adored]

It's my experience, Daveh, and Im even more generous that some people I know who will tell you that it's even, probably 99% who are unable to portray properly a Gorean, laugh! Too many people bring their Earthen values in their RP with their  limited comprehension of books. And they break all Gorean immersion. I do many effort to improve my role play, how I portray my current character. I evolved, these 2 last years, I read the books, I try to understand the particular Gorean mentality, I do my best to correct my efforts. But there are some basic mistakes that I have never done when playing my characters, FW, FW, slave and it irks me to encounter them in sims where I RPed. With a friend (she played my house slave), we got a very negative experience this autumn in a sim with people who was, though, rather popular with people who pretended to be very experienced. A woman who RPed a magistrate (sic) and wore a sheer veil (re-sic) but who felt allowed to tell me in my Ims, how I should RP my own role. Probably I have no more patience...

Regarding kajirae who see their RP influenced by OOC pressures, it's enough common... It happened to some of my friends. And what is wrong, with a jealous kajira? With slaves fighting each other for getting the favors of a free man? Where such RP can justify to get a IM and to be told to stop to be a troublemaker?

[Adoveea Rau]

I think, from my building pad still, I got tarn orders to do now, it's a conspiracy I'm sure to keep me from roleplaying ! Ohhh am I making some mean/awesome builds and tarns here.bounces with joy..*whoops cough..ahem*...anyway!! shuffles her feet sheepishly and yanks her mind back to what she's writing..

Part of our problem is book knowledge and experience in roleplay linked with people's desire to portray the character image they have in their mind of what their character is and others will respond to ..and they imagine how all the story and reactions of everyone around them will happen.

Now this is what causes alot of problems.."they imagine how all the story and reactions of everyone around them to their character will happen."

If I could have every single roleplayer's computer screen to put out a short loud siren and the words flash up in  neon red/green/yellow "Warning! Warning! you have encountered another roleplayer, Chaos will happen now. You must deal with whatever happens and your grand illusion of what you imagined should/could happen has been destroyed! Beep!! Welcome to interactive roleplay."..I sure would.